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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 05:19 [#01166133]
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I've been thinking a lot about this track lately.
Is it 'just blank space'? Or is it recorded with signals outsight the frequence which the human ear can hear?
If the 2nd (which I believe), did anyone of you manage to decode it?
Or is it space BOC gave us to let our imagination fill it up with whatsoever?
I listened to it many times yesterday, sometimes I also imagined to hear something but trying to gwet into it more carefully the (imaginative?) sounds dissapeared.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-29 05:20 [#01166136]
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Cut the crap and let's me and you get down to some right dirty sex.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 05:22 [#01166137]
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On the vinyl I believe it is just a smooth surface with no grooves, with just a sillhouetted outline of some people.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-29 05:24 [#01166141]
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On the cd, it makes the total running time 66:06, get it?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-29 05:25 [#01166145]
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no.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 05:27 [#01166150]
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66 minutes and 6 seconds 666 the sign of the beast beelzebub the dark prince the angel of death SATAN OMG
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 05:28 [#01166154]
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the devil is in the details
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-29 05:31 [#01166162]
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6606 is the sign of the beast?
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 05:32 [#01166165]
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Yeah, but on the Japanese CD tracks 1 -23 have a total running time of 66:02.
There are plenty of explanations / comments about this track at davidac.'s BOC page.
But I still believe there IS something hidden inside the track to be decoded
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 05:32 [#01166167]
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If you get rid of the 0, yeah.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-29 05:33 [#01166169]
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silence is golden.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-04-29 05:35 [#01166171]
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but your arse still talks
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 05:37 [#01166178]
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yeah!
I had Geogaddi (Japan CD) on heavy rotation yesterday. Each time after the silent track the 'From one source...' bonus song started, it was almost like a relief. Because in the silence I grew some much tension trying to hear something.
So- if the silent track is a rendition to the devil and the follow up is a rendition to god....
In the end, god shows up- the happy end
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analogueking
from denbigh (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 05:39 [#01166187]
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god is dead my friend
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-29 05:39 [#01166188]
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hahahahaah :D
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 05:41 [#01166192]
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Probably YOUR god is dead. Not mine
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-04-29 05:44 [#01166204]
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its just sort of silly is'nt it
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 05:45 [#01166206]
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Hello. God isn't real.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-04-29 05:45 [#01166210]
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he must be a fair age though.
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 05:48 [#01166213]
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Now... back to the topic.
Magic Window anyone ?!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 05:51 [#01166226]
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I don't own the CD, so there's no way for me to look at the high frequencies
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nano
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-04-29 06:25 [#01166291]
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A cd is 16bit/44.1kHz.
With 44.1kHz it is only posible to make a sound go up to (44.1)/2kHz = 22.05kHz, wich is at the top of our hearing range, at least for younger people, and there is nothing there, i promise you.
Anyone who owns the cd can rip it and see for them self, that there is nothing there. Its just space to make it 66:06.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 06:26 [#01166295]
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As I suspected.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-04-29 07:01 [#01166343]
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they said they didnt want the cd stopping straight after the last track that they find to beautiful to be ruined at the end by some noise straight away....so then came the magic window.
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 07:16 [#01166366]
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i saw a post by sum guy (can't remember where now) who did something called a hexdump (?) on the track, he basicaly said it was completely empty, nothing there at all. i also saw sumone say that the frequencies that magic windows use (google magic window if you don't know what it means) are outside those able to be recorded on a cd anyway. and yes the vinyl version of this track is just an etching, so definately nothing on the vinyl version.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 07:19 [#01166374]
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Magic windows? Explain, I can't find anything on google.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 07:27 [#01166393]
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I remember studying a theory called "Magic Window" which states that children percieve everything they see on television as being real and an accurate reflection of what happens outside, i.e. it acts as a magic window on the world.
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kid
from mum (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 10:26 [#01166771]
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Magic Window - Frequencies which (according to Thomas E. Bearden) are especially suited for coupling to and bringing energies from other dimensions. [EX via MM] Another source seems to imply such frequencies could be used to communicate from one dimension to another. (As you can see - this is kind of venturing into the realm of new-agey pseudo-science, but I wouldn't rule it out for that reason alone - much of what we take for granted today in science was seen as pseudo-scientific at one point.)
from http://www.lunarsight.com/glossary.htm, a link from the davidac site.
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 10:33 [#01166782]
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The range of frequencies that most of these magic windows fall under are well above human hearing - more than likely, they are intended to be 'accessed' using electromagnetic means (a device that creates an EM field). Although, if you're up for a challenge, you could try lowering the octave of these frequencies (i.e. dividing the number by two) until you reach a point where you're in the range of audible sound, and then try plugging that frequency into a sound generator.
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arnold113
from Germany on 2004-04-29 10:37 [#01166786]
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(the text above was from another article about the theories of Thomas E. Bearden).
That was my first idea of BOC's Magic Window.
I tried to imagine an instrument/tool to lower the frequencies in this song so it is possible to hear them.
;-) Of course, if there WHERE any (which there aren't, or are they?!)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-04-29 10:43 [#01166789]
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only children?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-29 10:43 [#01166790]
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as I've said before.. if you own the limited edition Geogaddi - have a look inside the cd-holding carton.
there's the same image that's on the vinyl.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-29 11:40 [#01166904]
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magic window freq's
the mysterious magic window...yeah it's true what kid told you,so i wont repeat the same.
well i managed to get a sound from this track...just put it into some sample editor and normalise the track around -1dB.
if you're wondering...i heard white noize with some other signal interference,weird.
but i think that this track could be decoded in some professional studio or lab.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-29 11:42 [#01166907]
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Yeah
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 11:45 [#01166910]
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So is that why someone told my friend that people with Tinitus are in tune with the 4th dimension? Or entering the 4th dimension, or something.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-04-29 11:55 [#01166932]
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God is in the seventh dimension
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 11:55 [#01166933]
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By the way, I don't know how they got the figure of '7.83hz' for the resonant frequency of the earth. Considering seismic waves travel about 10km/ second and the earth's diameter is about 12,730km on average, that would be about 1 cycle per every 1270 seconds.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-04-29 12:02 [#01166953]
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this mystification of boc really gets quite ridiculous sometimes. they're really just two scottish blokes that make good music.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-29 12:08 [#01166962]
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very true.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-04-29 12:10 [#01166965]
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they are not from canada? ;)
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-29 12:23 [#01167001]
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no,scotland...edinbourgh to be precise
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-29 12:23 [#01167003]
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They grew up in Canada so hah.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-04-29 12:28 [#01167013]
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They watch the border of canada from scotland, i already knew
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-29 12:33 [#01167018]
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yeah,and also lived shortly in alberta in their teens like mappatazee said...
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2004-04-29 22:05 [#01167868]
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On the vinyl version of Geogaddi, the record that has Magic Window (side 6) has the same ingraving the Pioneer 10 spacecraft had, and on the label, the frequency 162.225MHz, a reference to the Magic Window frequencies mentioned above.
Very interesting IMO - I wonder what the next album will have in store?
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-04-29 22:53 [#01167882]
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;)
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steve
from chicago on 2004-04-30 11:55 [#01168343]
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Whether something's hidden or not, for all intents and purposes, it's just a blank track. Maybe they just put it there so us dorks would discuss the possibilities, who knows? Blank tracks are common. I can list several off the top of my head: "Subsequently" by Love Spirals Downwards, "(Brief Pause)" by Clinic, "You Can Make Your Own Music" by Covenant, " 4'33" " by John Cage, of course "magic window", etc. I generally find theses blank tracks annoying because it means I have to reach for the >> button or wait it out. Either option disrupts the flow. For the song in question, I would've preferred "Corsair" go straight into "From One Source All Things Depend", there's plenty of fade at the end of "Corsair" so it would've been a smooth transition.
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