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uzim
on 2004-04-28 16:59 [#01165405]
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...they're seriously considering it.
"for terrorists only", or so they say.
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/12/propositions/pion152...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:01 [#01165410]
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mmyes.
I can't actually read French.
what does it say (in short)?
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uzim
on 2004-04-28 17:03 [#01165414]
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that they're considering bringing death penalty back in france, for terrorists.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:04 [#01165416]
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how do they define terrorists?
sounds like you're on the road to a police-state, if this goes through.
there'll be terrorists left, right and center.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-28 17:04 [#01165417]
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watch yourself uzim! ;)
did you pay for that coconut? :D
muahahah!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-28 17:06 [#01165422]
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Don't worry about it, we have the death penalty in this country still (it never went away), it hasn't been used in years. I was wondering if any of the Guantanamo bay lot were going to be offed for "Treason in time of War" (one of the few offences it's still applicable for). Blunkett has obviously forgotten or else he'd be leaping at the chance to use it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:07 [#01165427]
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mmyes, but it's very different if the death-penalty is re-introduced.
that indicates that it has not been forgotten, in fact, that they are planning to use it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-28 17:11 [#01165432]
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Actually you are wrong. There are no crimes in the UK punishable by death.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-04-28 17:12 [#01165434]
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we fry people like crazy over here.
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uzim
on 2004-04-28 17:13 [#01165438]
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qrter > it is definitely becoming a police-state... = /
with the new laws they passed, now they can keep people for interrogatory (is this the right word?) for up to 92 hours or something like that, they're censoring and filtrating the internet (or at least they plan to!), they don't give a fuck about people say even when there are strikes etc..
and we don't even know everything yet - for the internet law, for example, they never talk about it on tv... that's information we get through the internet, otherwise i wouldn't even be aware of it...
princo > actually, if it goes on like this, i'd rather die than live in a fascist state. (or just change country if i can - but that would be complicated, and lots of other countries are in terrible situations too...)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-04-28 17:14 [#01165440]
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Meh. That probably won't pass.
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uzim
on 2004-04-28 17:15 [#01165445]
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oh and little mean stupid laws too, like it is forbidden now for young people to meet in the hall of a building...
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-04-28 17:15 [#01165447]
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"there'll be terrorists left, right and center."
indeed, that's very worrying. If they don't like you they just label you a terrorist and put you away. Something like what's happening in Guantamo Bay at this very moment only permanently.
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uzim
on 2004-04-28 17:16 [#01165449]
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dariusgriffin > i hope so...
but i'm not even sure.
would you have thought that that internet law had passed?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:19 [#01165454]
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Fabien will be the first terrorist in the New France.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 17:21 [#01165458]
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"that they're considering bringing death penalty back in france, for terrorists. "
Jewish terrorists or terrorists in general ?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-28 17:21 [#01165460]
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No, it is for terrorists to use.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:22 [#01165463]
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ha ha!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:24 [#01165465]
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"..are you surprised that the prime minister is to be brought to death this evening?"
"..ah.. yes.. well.. we could not forsee that the terrorists would actually use this new law. we're horrified, absolutely HORRIFIED."
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-28 17:31 [#01165479]
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political correction gone mad I tell you...terrorist deserve equal rights not MORE OF THEM!!!
Crazy damn frogs will never learn.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:34 [#01165484]
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it's all that garlic.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 17:44 [#01165490]
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I don't know much about French politics, but I am sure someone said "at your service" on this board while roaring across this thread.
As far as I am concerned, sides are all same to me. It is just that you never know who is next in either way.
No, such descrimination is not good. But flames need to start somewhere.....
Rome wasn't built in one day, they say.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 17:46 [#01165493]
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I have little idea what you are trying to say.
please clarify.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 18:29 [#01165539]
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Please don't play that old game with me.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 18:57 [#01165564]
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the "please write coherently and so that other people can understand you"-game?
oh, let's!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-29 03:17 [#01165920]
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uzim - you wanna move ? im sure you can crash at Refunds house on the couch or something. ;D
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-04-29 03:33 [#01165951]
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GAWD france gets worse by the day
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-29 03:36 [#01165959]
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Regicide. Arson on a naval dockyard. High Treason in time of War.
And there's one other thing it applies that I can't remember.
There's one "working" set of gallows in the country still, in Portsmouth I believe...
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-29 03:37 [#01165962]
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regicide is a mighty fine "cide"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-29 03:38 [#01165963]
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I think it means killing "Reg"... ;)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-29 03:43 [#01165968]
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Death penalty was never gone.. it was always there, just more underground.. and then it becomes "retro"
just like Intelligent Dance Music, like we are Intelligent Dance Musicians, and thusly VEEEEERY underground (or maybe not)...
IJEST!
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nacmat
on 2004-04-29 03:55 [#01165978]
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no good idea
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-29 04:38 [#01166054]
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Nope, you are wrong. The Human Rights Act 1998 means we have completely abolished the death penalty including the five military wartime offenses which could previously have been enforced under the Armed Forces Act. Permanent abolition took place on 20th May 1999.
Trust me, I'm a scouser :D
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-29 04:39 [#01166057]
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On a side note, with the abolition the average life expentency of a scouser increased by 10 years....which is good news :D!!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-29 04:48 [#01166068]
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Fair one, I'd entirely forgotten about the human rights act (It's a piece of crap and I have little interest in it) and I admit it was around '96/'97 I saw the gallows!
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-29 04:52 [#01166077]
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ecnadniarb makes me nervous these days
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-29 04:52 [#01166079]
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what is a scouser?
some sort of panda?
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-04-29 05:02 [#01166089]
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I was going to say "you can always move here", and then noticed you already said it...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-29 05:13 [#01166122]
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A person from Ecnadniarb's bit of the country.
They are renowed for petty theft and stealing car radios.
In all seriosness though, I've yet to meet a scouser I've not liked (even if I do make sure I know where my wallet is when they're around :-P)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-29 06:32 [#01166302]
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awww. poor Reg! ;D
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-29 06:32 [#01166303]
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hehe yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-29 06:33 [#01166304]
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haha! must be nice being a scouser! (it kind of rhymes with trouser!)
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