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         |  uzim
             on 2004-04-24 14:47 [#01159225] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | this artist has made a record made of nothing but him rubbing his microphone gently for 72 minutes. it's called
 "Tower". yeah, this kind of thing shouldn't surprise you
 anymore by now.
 
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 so what?
 well... nothing.
 i don't know.
 is there anything to think of it that hasn't been thought
 before?
 
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 i wonder if an artist ever made a full album of
 complete silence. i'm sure it has happened.
 
 
 
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         |  happy cycling
             on 2004-04-24 14:53 [#01159232] Points: 2788 Status: Lurker | Followup to uzim: #01159225
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 | john cage's 4'33" is (you guessed it) four minutes and thirty three seconds of silence. cage performed it several
 times with a full orchestra. he actually went out and
 printed blank sheet music for every musician -- and he got
 up to conduct it.
 
 
 
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         |  happy cycling
             on 2004-04-24 15:05 [#01159245] Points: 2788 Status: Lurker
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 | LAZY_TITLEThe Sounds of Silence: John Cage and 4'33"
 
 i was written in 1952..
 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2004-04-24 15:07 [#01159248] Points: 6846 Status: Addict
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 | I remember hearing about a record entirely composed of the noise of blank audio cassettes. Not that silent though.
 
 And remember kids, there's no such thing as silence.
 
 
 
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         |  Jazembo
             from The Earth ball on 2004-04-24 15:12 [#01159255] Points: 2788 Status: Regular
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 | does a silent orchestra playing silence in a silent wood while a tree falls silently to the ground make a sound?
 
 
 
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         |  deepspace9mm
             from filth on 2004-04-24 15:14 [#01159258] Points: 6846 Status: Addict | Followup to Jazembo: #01159255
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 | Yup. Sort of like this. 
 "........................................................ft"
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:20 [#01159263] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | i was just reading an interview with Japanese improv guitarist Taku Sugimoto and he said some interesting things
 on the subject:
 
 "At present it seems that silence is still regarded as sort
 of a horrible thing in music, even though it has been almost
 50 years since [John Cage's] 4'33''... Do you think that the
 mysterious relationship between sounds and silence could
 possibly give us a new scope for the imperceptible world?"
 In answer to his own question, Sugimoto speaks of his 'road
 to damascus' experience at a performance organized by the
 Belin Wandelweiser group of Antoine Beuger's Calme Entendu
 (Spinoza). "At the beginning of the concert, for 30 minutes,
 nothing," he recalls.
 "Then Beuger read a book by Spinoza, one sentence for 8
 seconds, then some 20 minutes of silence again and again--
 it was a five hour concert. Just an excerpt from his piece.
 My ears were changing. I was sitting next to a door--the
 door opened, and it was a fantastic sound, like i have never
 experienced.  The sound was very erotic, like an object. I
 could almost touch it. At that time I had no idea how to
 explain that experience, it was very new to me."
 
 
 
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         |  sneakattack
             on 2004-04-24 15:23 [#01159264] Points: 6049 Status: Lurker | Followup to happy cycling: #01159232
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 | I was in a rather respectable hall when I once witnessed it being 'performed'.  I made lots of noise opening a rather
 fat book and reading it.  They want ambient noise? they got
 it.
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-24 15:29 [#01159276] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | people should definitely check out Sugimoto... his own work is often sparse... but not uber-indulgently sparse... just
 very delicate and mysterious sounding... a good album to
 check out would be his collaboration with Gunter Muller and
 Keith Rowe called  the world turned upside down... definitely worth
 checking out if you're adventurous...
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-02-05 22:41 [#01489052] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | have you heard much Sukora, uzim? i had someone recommend him to me recently as a really good field recordist (is that
 a word?), so i've been trying to track down some of his
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         |  OK
             on 2005-02-05 23:20 [#01489087] Points: 4791 Status: Lurker
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 | there are places in the world that are very quiet. It feels like your ears gonna explode.
 
 
 
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         |  DeadEight
             from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-02-05 23:24 [#01489088] Points: 5437 Status: Regular
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 | the sound of one hand clapping on XLT is the most disturbing sound in the universe...
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2005-02-06 05:47 [#01489164] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker | Followup to DeadEight: #01489052
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 | haven't heard a thing from him yet... ' _ ' 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-06 05:52 [#01489167] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to OK: #01489087 | Show recordbag
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 | that's those rooms where they've cancelled out that low hum the earth makes, isn't it?
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-06 05:54 [#01489170] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to happy cycling: #01159245 | Show recordbag
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 | here's a midi: 4'33" 
 
 
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         |  big
             from lsg on 2005-02-06 06:00 [#01489173] Points: 24091 Status: Lurker | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01489167 | Show recordbag
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 | i understood (cage said) you hear your blood humming and your central nervous system buzzing
 
 
 
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         |  Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-02-06 06:10 [#01489176] Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #01489173 | Show recordbag
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 | weird... 
 I'd like to be in one of those rooms once...
 
 
 
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