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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 03:48 [#01158722]
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Just got my self a Super Nintendo! been playing Super Mario Kart, and I'm gonna head off into town to see if I can pick up some more games! Hopefully a Mario game, if I'm really lucky! huzzah!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-04-24 03:53 [#01158724]
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Hmmm , i could buy a snes just for Super Mario Kart. I think i will sometime.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 03:55 [#01158725]
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Mario Kart is great... still one of my favourites. Probably the only game (aside from Mario Allstars) I really like on the Snes that I don't have. If you like mario kart, check out street racers (great mad carting game). F-zero is another classic racing one. Platform wise, any of the mario or donkey kong games are a good bet. For beat 'em ups, Killer instinct and SF2 Turbo are probably the best.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-04-24 03:55 [#01158726]
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why did you not just download an emulator and the super mari kart rom ?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 03:56 [#01158727]
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dude, it's worth it! :D Or you could get a PC-Snes controller and use ROMs only -- still, having a console is nice!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 03:59 [#01158731]
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Monoid, I have 700MB of SNES ROMs :P Ceri - F-Zero is a classic ... another all-time favourite!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 04:00 [#01158733]
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Because: it's rubbish playing it on keyboard rather than a pad (not all games, but mario kart is one that is poor); you can't easily play it with your mates on PC; and, the sound is never 100% spot on on emulators, even if the graphics are good (or even better).
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-04-24 04:04 [#01158739]
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A snes pc controler , hey theres a thought ! Im also going into town , im gonna have a look around for those. But first i will buy an ice cream , the sun is here! =)
Another fun racing game was Crazy Taxi , but that was for Playstation innit ??
Nothing beats Mario Kart tho.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 04:06 [#01158740]
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I enjoy playing Platformers on the Emulator, that's about all, really .. racing games have to played on the console itself!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-04-24 04:06 [#01158741]
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Well done, Paul!
= D
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-04-24 04:20 [#01158751]
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hehe - yes, oldschool console games are in !!
i bought a snes with my friend about a few months ago. we are oldschool-rpg maniacs... :D
since then we bought such classics like secret of mana, chrono trigger etc.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 04:33 [#01158762]
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where did the old console go then?
i don't understand people who don't keep their consoles for life. and if you never got one when it came out, well that explains much of your personality now i suppose.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 04:35 [#01158764]
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Yep, I have Secret of Mana, too! :D
J198 - I couldn't afford a SNES when they came out, so does that mean I have a poorman personality?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 04:36 [#01158765]
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jesus. i dont even understand people who don't own any kind of nintendo console at ALL.
I DONT GET YOU PEOPLE. WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 04:39 [#01158768]
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it means you never had true nintendo love. you could have worked your ass off to afford one. you know you would regret it if you didn't. look at you now.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 04:43 [#01158771]
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jeroen, I was a schoolkid ... nintendoes were quite expensive back then for a schoolkid. I had a Spectrum128k .. right now, I have: SNES, N64, Speccy, PS1, PS2.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 04:56 [#01158781]
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i understand. i wasnt being entirely serious. i guess i was lucky bastard kid. my parents got me one. they knew i would never stop asking for one so in a way they had to.
can't say i had a spectrum though. i wonder what those are like.
i still dont have a gamecube by the way, which makes me sad.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-24 05:01 [#01158785]
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i have a USB playstation (style) controller and a decent PC with TV-Out. Those controllers are accually cheaper than a super nintendo itself.
emulation forever! but it is nice to play the real thing for a few hours. I only keep the old consoles for that collectors edge!
Its so much easier to load up a ROM then to set up my consoles these days.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 05:46 [#01158825]
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I saved like a dog to get my NES... £50 second hand from one of my brother's mates. That was a lot of money for a 8 year old when back then.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-04-24 05:47 [#01158826]
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I was always a mega-drive man meself.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-24 05:50 [#01158827]
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Hehe, When I had a SNES back in the day of its prime, I would have arguements with my mate who owned a Mega Drive. I always thought the SNES looked alot smoother! ;D
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-24 05:51 [#01158828]
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and now I have 4 of them! :D
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 05:53 [#01158830]
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Same for me.... except it was a SNES, I was about 6 and it was £60.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-04-24 05:54 [#01158831]
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just Bought A SNEEZE!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 05:59 [#01158833]
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I reckon the megadrive was better for some games (Earthworm Jim, Mortal Kombat 1), but I agree that overall the Snes was the better machine. Mario whups Sonic any day of the week in my book.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:01 [#01158835]
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Nice! the snes is probably my favourite console ever.
Mario Kart is fantastic. I still think it's the best one in the series. The small courses do it for me. I think the average laptime is usually around 30 seconds or something. In most other Mario Karts a lap usually lasts more than a minute. I love seeing all the other racers somewhere else on the track. You're driving in one lane, and on the other side of a fence you see Donkey Kong Jr. going in the opposite direction (with his hand in the air and not on the wheel :-P). There are so many shortcuts too! It gets really hectic. Just great fun :-)
Plus the screen is optimised for 2 player-action. Even when you're playing on your own you only get half a screen. With all the other Mariokarts I always feel like I'm playing a lesser version of the game when in multiplayer.
Battle mode in the original game still hasn't been beaten either.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:07 [#01158839]
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"i don't understand people who don't keep their consoles for life."
Yeah I wish :-/ But my parents wouldn't let me. When the SNES came out they forced me to sell my NES before I could buy the SNES. Even though I had enough money saved up to buy the SNES anyway :-( They just thought it was decadent having 2 consoles or something like that. I dunno, but I couldn't persuade them to let me keep the NES.
The same thing happened when the Nintendo64 came out.
I took such good care of it too :-( I still had all of the original boxes. All the manuals. Even the little plastic bags that the SNES-games were always wrapped in. I saved them all. All the boxes were scratchless and the manuals really neat. It would have been worth a fortune by now... if I still had it.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-04-24 06:24 [#01158853]
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OH NO!
Sonic is SO superior to Mario in terms of level design and music!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:27 [#01158854]
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haha! I hope you're joking :-p Especially about the level design. Music is a matter of personal taste i suppose... but the leveldesign in Mario has always been pure genius. Superior to pretty much everything else out there!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 06:31 [#01158855]
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i have to admit, sonic is damn near excellent. which is of course why he appears on nintendo consoles now ;)
i don't like to compare sonic games to mario games though. they're both great.
i'm still considering of getting a megadrive just for sonic, and mega bomberman.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-04-24 06:40 [#01158859]
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Seriously, I find the Mario levels to be so much more straight-forward in comparison to Sonic levels. The lava/castle levels and some of the more difficult Mario levels are very good, I'll be the last to deny that, but in Sonic games the different obstacles work together (so to speak) so much better. I also much perfer the artistic design of the Sonic games. Especially in combination with the music the Sonic levels are actually able to create a particular, memorable atmosphere (can't really describe it).
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:42 [#01158863]
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don't even get me started on 3D sonic... I made the mistake of buying Sonic Adventure Battle 2... that game is so frustrating... and for all the wrong reasons.
2D sonic is excellent though :-) (I also bought the Sonic Mega Collection). I like them alot... but I still think Mario-games are much much better.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 06:45 [#01158865]
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I never had a Sega console, but downloading an emulator and the first Sonic game made me realize how fucking easy Super Mario World was.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 06:49 [#01158866]
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Nope sorry, I still don't agree with you. :-p I'm not going to mention the graphics or sound... it's hard to say any of the two series is "better" in that aspect... it's really a matter of taste.
But the levels in Mario are so well thought out. I never run into an enemy or obstacle I didn't see coming (which happens to me in Sonic all the time). Every time you loose a life in Mario it's really your own fault. It never feels unfair... unlike sonic, where you really have to memorise the levels in order to survive. Mario-levels are also full of neat little touches. You can really be sure that every single block is put there for a specific reason... nothing is random. Doing some exploration is almost always rewarded by discovering a little secret. (even if it's just a hidden 1up or a coin-chamber).
Plus sonic drowns when he stays underwater for too long... something that i always hate in any videogame. I much prefer the mario-method... who can hold his breath infinitly :-p
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 06:54 [#01158872]
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Easy!
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-04-24 07:00 [#01158877]
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The fact that Sonic can drown is of course to make the game more of a challenge. It sometimes requires precise timing and practice.
I don't really think that anything in the Sonic games is placed 'randomly'.
The fact that you don't see enemies coming in the Sonic games is your own fault ;) :P
So all in all I come to the (of course) 100% rational conclusion that Sonic kicks the pulmber's ass from here all the way to Guantanamo Bay!
no but seriously, I guess it's all just a matter of personal tatste and opinion
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 07:02 [#01158878]
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Nothing comes close to the "underground" music on Mario IMO.
Sonic is an exercise in memory- remembering when to jump because there's an enemy you'll run into otherwise. Mario was a lot fairer in terms of level design.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 07:04 [#01158879]
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Easy!!!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-24 07:14 [#01158883]
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Try playing "Super Mario Brothers - The Lost Levels" and then come back and say, "Easy!!!" :P
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-04-24 07:16 [#01158884]
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Hey hey hey... I'm just talking about Super Mario World... playing it recently, the only difficult bits are the 'special' levels.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-24 07:16 [#01158885]
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that game is insane. horribly frustrating, to put it mildly.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-24 08:31 [#01158911]
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Good on ya! I still have my SNES and most of my games, but when I want to play SNES games (which is still often often often), I just use emulators, I'm so lazy.
Keep an eye out for Earthbound, which is secretly the funniest and BEST game ever made.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-04-24 08:39 [#01158919]
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I want one =o(
I still havent forgiven my mother for selling my NES and all my games for £5 in a car boot sale.
She sold all my He-Man toys and tranformers too
bitch
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-24 10:39 [#01158998]
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I am totally in love with Dire Dire Docks, from Mario (that's the name by which I know it, from M64) ... I think it is so beautiful!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 11:11 [#01159016]
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"The fact that Sonic can drown is of course to make the game more of a challenge."
Well yeah sure it makes the game more difficult. But imo it's cheating on the designer's behalf. If they wanted to make a difficult level, they should have made the underwater-level itself so challenging that they wouldn't have needed the added pressure of time-limit to spice things up.
"The fact that you don't see enemies coming in the Sonic
games is your own fault ;) :P"
:-p No it isn't! Haha. I consider myself a pretty good gameplayer. I've played and completed lots of platformgames. I like to think that I'm perhaps even slightly better than average ;-)
And yet I keep losing lives in Sonic The Hedgehog games. And whenever I loose one of those lives, it's almost always because of something totally unpreditable. Something that could have only been avoided if I would have known (or memorised from the last time) that it's there.
There's nothing particularly wrong with that I guess. Lots of games depend on it. And once you have a decent mental image of the Sonic-levels, it's great fun to race through them at an insane speed :-)
But I just think that it goes to show the superior level-design that in mario games, this is never the case. You can always see the enemy (or the spikes, or the bottomless pit, or the lava or whatever) coming at you. And if you get hit by it, it's only because you weren't quick enough to avoid it.
But you're right. There's no reasong to argue about which game is better (even though I think we both see how Mario is obviously superior ;-)). Let's just agree that it's all a matter of personal taste, like you said in the small print.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:11 [#01159018]
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it's all about street fighter alpha 2
also mario rpg
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-24 11:13 [#01159022]
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oh and pogo i would beat your moms ass if i could
she'd be all OH GOD STOP IT I'M JUST AN OLD LADY WHO DOESN'T REALIZE THE WORTH OF MY DAUGHTERS CHILDHOOD VIDEO-BOX and i'd be like TOO BAD
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Q4Z2X
on 2004-04-24 11:14 [#01159026]
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i have to agree with ophecks on his earthbound statement. didn't that game come in a scratch-'n'-sniff box?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-24 11:17 [#01159030]
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Did I tell you already that I've found a copy of earthbound? With the big box and the huge manual too. Even the scratch & sniff stickers are still giving of a strong smell! (some of them stink though, ugh.... but the banana-flavored one smells quite good).
I've only played it for a little bit though... to see if it worked alright. I'm planning to save it for when I have a holiday, so that I can properly indulge in it :-)
"I am totally in love with Dire Dire Docks, from Mario"
That one is really good yeah :-) It really gives you a special feeling whilst playing that level... which was already an amazing experience because it was the first proper 3D-platform game EVER... and this music just seemed to add to the magic :-)
This site uses it as backgroundmusic if you're desperate to hear it again.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-24 11:18 [#01159032]
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recommended:
earthbound super mario world legend of zelda: a link to the past final fantasy 3 (6 in japan) chrono trigger super metroid zombies ate my neighbors (simple but fun)
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