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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-23 11:44 [#01157848]
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Q. for music makers (even if it's guitar music/whatever):

Which do you prefer:

1. Trying to replicate the "sound in your head" as close as
possible(down to exact rhythms, same slightly off beat bits,
getting synth patches as close as possible to how you
imagine them

or,

2. Having a rough idea in you head (probably just the genre
and a general mood) and working in that area until you do
something good.

or,

3. Just noodling around until you stumble on something good
and then building a track around that one element (be it a
bassline, synth patch, drum loop/whatever).

Personally, I like 2 best. 1 is probably the best sense of
achievement when you do it right, but is often crushingly
slow. 3. Can yield good "novel" stuff, but it can take hours
to do anything good and you usually don't feel it's "yours"
as much as tracks made by methods 1/2.

Your thoughts?



 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-04-23 11:46 [#01157855]
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it often ends up being all 3.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-23 11:49 [#01157861]
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On the same track?


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-04-23 11:52 [#01157869]
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Ceri, well as silly as it may seem, yeah i reckon....i start
off with "1" but gradualy move to "2" and then "3", then
move my way back up again to "1".


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-23 11:54 [#01157873]
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always 3
(but this makes you end up with 200 unfinished songs)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-04-23 11:54 [#01157874]
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its a mix of an idea i will have that i create and build
upon by fucking around with different sounds/ideas/methods.

I make music by ear mostly


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-04-23 12:37 [#01157920]
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If I meet up with musicians, then improvisation is usually
what we'll do. If I am making a track myself then can take
the time to compose it step by step, but as I have no band I
usually won't get time to do this with others. Improvisation
is a lot more rewarding anyway, and even if it doesn't come
off, it's a lot of fun. As far as making music by myself
goes, I'll have an idea of what I'm going to do before I
start creating.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-23 12:40 [#01157922]
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it depends on what i'm writing, usually 1 or 3.

like when i'm inspired by something, i'll usually start off
with 1. when i'm through with that and need to expand, 3 is
the way i'll head next. most of my more mashup beats or
intricate melodies come from 3, after creating central
themes (basic beats, melodies) with 1.


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2004-04-23 13:18 [#01157985]
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agreed with you gwely...i'm always building tracks around 1
or 2 bar loops.
it's usually an drumloop and an bassline,synth and that
stuff come later.
i prefer the beat programming rather than making melodies.


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2004-04-23 13:22 [#01157992]
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usually 2 and 3, sometimes 1 though.


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2004-04-23 14:58 [#01158165]
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i almost exclusively use methods 3 and 2.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-23 15:00 [#01158170]
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a lot of the cowboy sugarcakes stuff i make is written using
2 and 3 now that i think of it.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-04-23 15:15 [#01158187]
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Same path as hobbes' mostly.
(1)Occasionally I have this great melody in my head but when
I sit down behind the machine to translate it I can't seem
to get the right notes going so I end it with something that
sounds forced and totally unlike the idea I had and bingo,
it's another possible great melody down the drain.
(2)I have general ideas on what I want to create, like
specific genres, then I usually start with trying to create
synth that I like and the rest sort of adds to it naturally,
trying out sounds that go along fine with it and discarding
the rest. You're right about this method being crushingly
slow as from there I have about 45 songs that are all
unfinished. They sound promising but I'm afraid I'll mess
'em up with the next sound I add so I leave(forget) 'em "til
I have the right inspiration" for them again.
(3)Or I want to make music but have no fecking clue on what
I'll make so I just start out somewhere because I'm in the
mood to make music.


 


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