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erm who is the occupying force here? Maybe a "full" withdrawal by Israel and no more US support for terrorist actions from Israel might be a start |
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jareon:a) stop assaulting palestinan leaders b) only use the land they initially got c) act normal against palestinians, no stupid laws to make their lives miserable these are stupid reasons, i'm not going to even bother responding as to why these reasons are stupid, go read a fucking paper. cya later dude |
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Heh, the bible isn't any better than the qu'ran or kóran. They fucking took what wasn't theirs and they do nothing but whine and whine about the holocaust. They are the friggin' nazis of today. They always want more and hide behind things that happened more than 60 years ago. If there weren't so many rich Jews in the US this thing would never have happened. |
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fleetmouse: that is kinda true, every time those muslims blow the shit out of civilians they get 77 virgins and all but the way i see it, is that their lives are rendered completely useless and well they get pretty agressive. their religion doesnt help much either |
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i'm a jew i'm not necessarily rich. i had to take a bus to college for 2 years. atli go stand infront of uncoming traffic u fucking anti semite. |
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"These are men who plan and plot suicide bombings involving women and children wearing explosive vests. The world is richer for having lost them." and the Palestinians killed by F16's, helicopter gunships is different how? |
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yes, discussing something with you is like shouting in a goddam vacuum |
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whenever the palestinians see those israeli army helicopters above them in , they know who sold them to israel.....and weapons. in fact most arabs know this, whatever religion or position. |
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If I say that there are rich Jews in the US, then are all Jews rich? What the fuck? Nice logic man, nice logic. And no I'm not anti semite, I just hate the way they've been treating the Palestinians. They're doing something that's illegal. If you're Jewish it doesn't give you the right to fuck people over just because your ancestors were mistreated, although some tend to think so. |
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ok so the way you look at it is. lets drive all the jews out of their homes into the desert hmm sound familiar oh yeah the egyptians did it to us a thousands of years ago. where in tHE BLOODY FUCK ARE WE GOING TO GO? you dont understand. IT IS OUR LAND. NOT THEIRS. THEY HAVE A SHIT LOAD OF LAND FOR THEMSELVES, THEY WANT IT FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES. |
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the anti semite bit is the same as rasism within the black community black people claim they dont get chance in society and create a eg black only uni campus this in itself is rasism against everybody else and is the same as this situation |
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nob, there are palestinians who do live in israel fyi |
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that post is as coherent as my shit when i ate some bad seafood do all jews write in caps when they have a hard on? |
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my responce wasnt a blanket one |
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I haven't got anything against Jews or Israelis, I just don't like the fact how the Israeli government is handling the thing. The land was taken from the Palestians, it was theirs before Israelis were "given" the land. Sure Isrealis should own some land but they always want more and more. They always expand their land and take more from the Palestinians although they are much fewer than the Palestinians. Where is the justice in that? |
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how can some country just 'give' land to people, anyway? |
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im no anti semite either and understand the pain and the suffering jews have gone through. but its no excuse to do the same to others. i believe the term "anti semite" is being abused a bit. to many people a re labeled this when they clearly are not. i remember once mentioning (in a not very good sentence i admit) that most of hollywood was run by jewish people. i was then called a "nazi cunt". and i think thats not on. seing as its true. i see as all as human beings first. the fucking same. a couple of quotes from a jewish man i love very much: "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. " "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." chomsky |
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You say that the Palestinians need it for religious reasons. Why do Isrealis need the land? So they can have more room? The Palestinians are a much bigger part than Israelis living on a much smaller area. |
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first of all be more concerned with our people being brutally slaughtered my islamic extremist THEN worry about us jews living in the outskirts of some shitty slum, because thats exactly what gaza strip is, a qurantine for people with no fundamental respect of other peoples rights as human beings. if you can't see it that way then maybe you will when some massive terrorist act occurs in your nation. |
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an anti semite is anti jew. The sentiment here is anti israel, there is a difference. |
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quoting ChildrenTalking "ok so the way you look at it is. lets drive all the jews out of their homes into the desert hmm sound familiar oh yeah...." syes it does, what happened with the palestinians and the place they were living in? |
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why do you keep saying bla bla 'you have to see it my way' |
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doesnt putting people into quaratine infringe human rights? |
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a big concentration camp then?? |
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Sure, I don't like it when people bomb them selfs up and kill innocent people. But they don't see it that way. Tanks come and level houses to the ground, and kill your brothers and sisters. And what have they got against this military power? Rocks. If someone would do this to my family and home I would be a bit pissed and ready to do something extreme. The Israelis have never given a fuck about the Palestinians neither have the US. The word veto and UN comes to mind. |
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palestinian terrorism does not result from israel's occupation of the west bank and gaza, but from israel's existence. palestinian terrorism long predates the 1967 occupation; the palestine liberation organization was formed in 1964, three years earlier. But hasn't the more recent phenomenon of suicide bombing come about because of long-simmering palestinian despair? not really. suicide bombings started only after the 1993 Oslo Accords, which provided palestinians with their best opportunity for a state. They intensified massively after israel withdrew from lebanon and offered a series of generous territorial concessions. ----------- article in middle east terror Mr. Sharon's policy so far has been worse than ineffective; it is aggravating the terrorism." The whole appeal of this notion lies in the part about "putting aside the ethics." Denying the effectiveness of Israeli military action forecloses any debate over its morality. It allows you to ignore the difficult trade-offs between Jewish and Arab interests by pretending the two are in perfect alignment: If Israel would halt its military incursions and withdraw from the territories, Palestinians would stop their terrorism, leaving both sides more secure. This makes for a lovely and comforting syllogism. If only it were true. |
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and their religion sort of approves with such behaviour too |
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Sure suicide bombing has been used for a long time but the bombers aren't official "spokesmen" (can't find the right word) of Palestine. They are a minority. The don't necessarily represent the will of the whole nation. The Israeli government however does. |
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i'm not here to have u side with me JAroen, let me make something clear. i am here to defend MY people. if i wasnt still in school i'd probably be living in israel as a soldier/nurse protecting my troops. protecting our children and women. not for the greater cause of some stupid petty land. i gotta go do some homework. PLUR |
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of course it's down to israels existance, who do you think the land was stolen from to create israel? little invisible pixies??? the expansion was just further fuel to the fire!! |
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"the U.S is the only country that was condemned for international terrorism by the world court and that rejected a Security Council resolution calling on states to observe international laws." im off to listen to some nick drake i think. ChildrenTalkin if you wish to talk or argue with me id be glad to on msn. konliedhotmail |
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A) People who tell other people to read the Qu'Ran as proof that Islam is a religion about hatred and oppression, should try to read the Qu'Ran themselves one day, since the Qu'Ran doesn't condone either. B) Anti-Zion is against Israel - it does not make a person Anti-Semitic, which certain Jewish people love to imply it does so that nobody questions them, or stands in their way. C) The US provided the Israeli army with their weaponry -- they kill innocent Palestinians ... being prepared to die for your cause is a philosophy stretching back millenia -- all of a sudden, because it's "them", it's evil? D) Israel ARE an occupying force. They should be made to leave the areas they illegally occupy. E) Modern-day Israel should NEVER have come about. Even if leaders from that time sensed it was right, ethically (or some such bullshit), the political and human ramifications were not taken into account. You can't simply strip land from one peoples and give to another--that's naive AT BEST. |
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Well at least it looks like the war in Iraq is off : |
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good old george it was a bit fun the whiley old bugger |
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I don't think he ever took it seriously anyway : |
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lol |
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You really a smegma smellin, fuckin knob-end. |
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Palestine was owned by the Brits. And the US sells weapons to anyone if you have the money. When Israel was formed there was hardly anyone there. Arabs moved to Israel in droves to oppose the formation. And subsequently moved out to make way for the six day war against Israel. They kicked everyones ass, but allowed Palestinians to live there as well and even have representatives in government., but that wasn't good enough. So, they decided to blow themselves up in sbarros restaurants and ice cream shops. |
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hahahahahahahaha |
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quote from bogala: " And the US sells weapons to anyone if you have the money" sure, but they also thouroughly support israel, and when they provided them with helicopters for example they knew exactly what for. that was my point. |
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i said the same in the 6th post :) |
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