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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-26 07:01 [#00064115]
        
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 | I got an XBox for Christmas with Munch's Oddysee, Tony Hawk 2X, and DOA 3.
 
 Basically 2X doesn't have much improvement over 2, which I
 was addicted to, so I'm planning on returning it.
 
 Although Munch has all the strangeness of the good old
 oddworld from Playstation, it doesn't really capture the fun
 of the gameplay of the old game, maybe my tastes are just
 changing.
 
 I haven't even opened DOA 3 yet, and for this reason:
 
 I'm thinking about returning the Xbox and getting a
 playstation 2.  I know that Xbox is a much more powerful
 peice of machinery, but the games just aren't there.
 
 I want to be playing:
 
 New Resident Evils
 Final Fantasy X
 Metal Gear 2
 Grand Theft Auto
 Tony Hawk 3
 etc.
 
 The graphics on Xbox are much better, its better designed,
 and it has a greater potential, but will the games ever be
 there?  Xbox games just seemed to be aimed at the less
 intelligent.  I don't want to collect powerups or snowboard
 I want to playing interesting game play games, role playing
 games, etc.
 
 Should I stick it out with my Xbox?
 Or should I trade it in?
 
 I don't know if I can live without Squaresoft games!!!
 
 
 
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         | D-Hex
             from KC Missouri on 2001-12-26 07:20 [#00064116]
        
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 | Well, i just opened my brand new copy of FFX and am so far blown away.  Yesteray I beat Metal Gear Solid 2, and I loved
 every minute of it.  I say you go with the sure thing man
 and grab a ps2 because their are already great games for it
 and most likely even better games coming out for it in the
 future.
 
 
 
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         | D-Hex
             from KC Missouri on 2001-12-26 07:21 [#00064117]
        
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 | Oh and by the way, you wont find any new Resident Evils on PS2 because they will only be appearing on the Gamecube for
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         | Joyrex
             from joyrex.com of course! on 2001-12-26 07:25 [#00064119]
        
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 | You won't find RE on the PS2 AT FIRST, but they will come out for PS2 after the GC releases. Capcom wouldn't cut off
 their bread n' butter that easily.
 
 Get rid of the X-Crap I say and get a PS2 and some games!
 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-26 07:37 [#00064122]
        
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 | Oh my god, Capcom pledged RE exclusively to the Kiddie Cube? Why didn't they just through their money out the window?
 Anyway I can play all the other ones on my ps1 and I've
 beaten code Veronia. It won't be forever until RE 4 comes
 out (I don't care about GC improved graphics) so something
 will have changed by then.  My big question is RPGs...Rumor
 has it that FFXI will be for Xbox, which would be a good
 move for Square considering the online capabilities of Xbox.
 I'm probably going to follow squaresoft at the moment...
 
 Thanks for the tip guys, I'm not going to buy another system
 though for years so will I regret switching to PS2 when I'm
 in college and Chrono Trigger X comes out for Xbox?
 
 
 
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         | D-Hex
             from KC Missouri on 2001-12-26 08:04 [#00064125]
        
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 | Well, fuck Chrono Trigger cuz Chrono Cross sucked. Secondly, FFIX is confirmed for PS2 but could possibly be
 released on xbox too.  If you wanna follow squaresoft then
 you should definately get a ps2.
 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-26 08:45 [#00064126]
        
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 | Chrono Cross did suck...they can make a recovery tho, maybe. I'm starting to think I do have to go for the ps2...we'll
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         | Joyrex
             from joyrex.com, of course! on 2001-12-26 16:00 [#00064157]
        
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 | Read again: RE is going to be exclusive to the GC AT FIRST, then it will appear on other platforms (PS2).
 
 Square will not release a FF game on the Xbox since Sony
 just bought a large share of Square after their huge loss in
 the FF movie.
 
 
 
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         | Miximus Masterus Maximus
             on 2001-12-26 18:09 [#00064173]
        
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 | Grand Theft Auto 3 is worth getting a PS2 for. So there. 
 
 
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         | corngrower
             from Iowa on 2001-12-27 01:04 [#00064242]
        
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 | Right now PS2 is the better buy because it already has alot of great games to choose from.  But, I think that when Xbox
 gets its feet wet and gets some more games out there, it
 will surface as the top console.  But, for now, my vote
 stays with PS2.... untill X can top games like grand theft
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         | bumblefuk
             on 2001-12-27 02:10 [#00064252]
        
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 | where the hell do you live? .....that will let you return opened games and gamesystems?
 
 
 
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         | Joyrex
             from joyrex.com of course! on 2001-12-27 03:52 [#00064272]
        
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 | That's true, if the Xbox does survive (and old billy will pump cash into it to make it survive), it will force Sony to
 move up release of the PS3, as much as a year earlier than
 intended (they wanted the PS2 to live until 2004-05). No big
 deal, as long as Sony keeps the backward compatibility with
 the older games and of course delivers on the hardware,
 which they usually do.
 
 
 
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         | LeMoN
             from ? on 2001-12-27 04:53 [#00064278]
        
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 | PS2 easily has the most reliable game library right now, it has some class tripleA shit...Hell, I will buy one
 eventually, or at least a PS3 if it has backward
 compatibility..but, IMO, Gamecube will have the strongest
 library of platinum quality games. You all wait and see, the
 new Mario, Zelda, Perfect Dark, Metroid, and whatever else
 they have up their sleeves, you know its gonna be sweet. Not
 to mention they will have more third party support because
 they are no longer cartridge, a perfect example being the
 Resident Evil's...oh, and Capcom signed the new RE's to be
 on Gamecube ONLY. You wont see them ported to another system
 for years, so if u want to play the new resident evils
 within the next 2 years, u need a GC. Oh, and the RE1 remake
 looks soo fuckin amazing.
 
 
 
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         | Xen
             on 2001-12-27 04:55 [#00064280]
        
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 | well i just got a PS2 with Pro Evolution Soccer - brilliant and GTA3 - genius !! :D
 
 
 
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         | D-Hex
             from KC Missouri on 2001-12-27 07:06 [#00064299]
        
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 | Yeah the remake of RE does look fuggin incredible. 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-27 09:22 [#00064315]
        
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 | You are right, they won't let me return it, the bastards.  I all made up my mind to trade it in for the PS2 and now I'm
 stuck with the xbox, a terrible situation.  I wish I didn't
 even think I had the option.  I really wish I could trade in
 Tony Hawk 2x for something else like Halo.  Has anyone
 played Halo before?  Munch's oddysee is so/so.  I haven't
 even opened DOA3 because I think I might want to exchange it
 for halo.  All in all I am definately dissapointed with
 XBox, I have looked online and I don't even see anything
 really spectacular to look forward to for the box.  I might
 put signs up in my school offering a temporary/permanent
 trade for a PS2.  I'm sure there's a ton of kids who've
 already beaten FFX, Metal Gear 2, and GTA3 who are looking
 for something new...
 
 Should I exhange DOA for Halo?  Any thoughts?
 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-27 09:23 [#00064316]
        
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 | I'm not big on fighting games (except for some of the classics like Street Fighter and Rival Schools)...then again
 I'm not that into FPShooters, but halo looks sick..
 
 (sick meaning good)
 
 
 
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         | Chrispy
             from UK on 2001-12-27 09:47 [#00064318]
        
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 | Can someone tell me: What Platform is Tekken 4 gonna be out on? Tekken 4 is phenominal! It's soo good in the Arcade.
 Please someone tell me, It's gonna affect my desision.
 
 
 
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         | Jedi Chris
             from North Pole on 2001-12-27 10:07 [#00064319]
        
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 | The discussion as to what console is better than which will never end! It depends when you buy the machine doesn't it? I
 had my PS2 this Feb and I know that Gamecube and XBox are
 meant to be better, but thats only for now! My next console
 will be PS3!! 007 Agent Under Fire is the game of the
 season!! Nothing like hunting someone down in multiplayer
 mode and filling them with lead on christmas morn!!! ho ho
 ho !   Grand Theft Auto 3 is the business too!
 
 
 
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         | Intruder
             from chicago on 2001-12-27 10:52 [#00064325]
        
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 | Tekken 4 will be on PS2. i cant tell you if the other platforms will get it as well, but its definetly on for ps2.
 
 On the fighter subject, Sega's virtua Fighter 4 is a PS2
 exclusive game, which looks VERY impressive.
 
 As for which to go with, X-box or PS2? i have had my ps2
 since launch day(10/00), and i couldnt be happier with it. I
 made my fiance buy me a GameCube this christmas which also
 rocks much ass. the thought of getting an Xbox never crossed
 my mind. all it is, is a hype machine. no offense to Xbox
 owners, but anyone who belive that xbox can push over 100
 million polygons on screen, is a complete moron. so it has a
 700mhz processor. people hear that and flip out cause they
 think its so much more powerful thatn anything else.
 iurge you to look into the actual GRAPHICS processor, then
 tell me what you think in comparison.
 My opinion has always been that Xbox will go the way of the
 3DO, it will stay around only because its manufacturer has
 the money to keep it around. but eventually, you can kiss it
 goodbye.
 get a PS2 and a GameCube. you WILL BE SET!
 
 
 
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         | Chrispy
             from UK on 2001-12-27 11:48 [#00064331]
        
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 | Thanks mate. s'all I need to know. 
 
 
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         | jand
             from Chelmsford,Essex,Uk on 2001-12-27 11:50 [#00064332]
        
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 | Xanatos...have a bit of patience, mate; XBOX is only a couple of months old and it'll take some time for Developers
 to get to grips with whats possible; there was a similar
 situation with PS2 when it was first released (same with
 most consoles, I guess)... good thing about XBOX is it's a
 platform that devs already know quite well so it won't take
 very long before the X has a decent lib of games
 available...
 
 I'm sure in 3-6 months time, the situation will improve
 10x...
 
 
 
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         | digidogheadlock
             from under a rock on 2001-12-27 13:09 [#00064344]
        
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 | atari2600 owns both.
 
 
 
 
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         | Chrispy
             from UK on 2001-12-27 13:48 [#00064346]
        
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 | Amstrad CPC 6128 owns all 
 
 
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         | Joyrex
             from joyrex.com, of course! on 2001-12-27 16:16 [#00064382]
        
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 | A suggestion regarding your unreturnable Xbox and games: 
 It's still a hot commodity on Ebay, put it up there, and
 you'll be lucky to break even, very lucky if you make a
 slight profit, and fortunate if you only lose 50-100 dollars
 off the deal, but that will give you the dough to buy a PS2
 and a game or two (lots of used PS2 games for under 30
 dollars online and in stores that sell used games.
 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-27 20:31 [#00064426]
        
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 | Mixed opinions here...informative thought thanks 
 Joyrex:  I thought about doing that however I am sure that
 after opening my box and 2 of my 3 games I am bound to lose
 $100 people who buy from ebay are there to save money, and
 know what things cost retail, especially when they have to
 pay extra S&P.  I might sell just my Tony Hawk 2X, I am a
 dumbass for opening it I knew I didn't want it.  I think the
 only way I could come out even would be to trade the box
 temporarily or permanently to someone else.
 
 Question:  Should I exchange DOA3 for Halo or Max Payne?  I
 have not played any of these 3 games...
 
 
 
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         | LtAirComStarscream
             from NY on 2001-12-27 21:22 [#00064448]
        
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 | X box has no japanese support and no ones buying it there so thats gonna be its downfall. i would suggest getting a ps2
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         | Baron Von Picklefoot
             from From my "special" place on 2001-12-27 21:24 [#00064449]
        
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 | On my table I have a pile of books. These are the books I have on the go right now. Top to Bottom (arranged smallest
 to biggest), it goes like this:
 
 - Roget’s Pocket Thesaurus
 - A 2001 Movie and Video guide
 - A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers
 - Lynch on Lynch (an extended interview of David Lynch by
 Chris Rodley)
 - Rude Boy by Chris Salewicz
 - Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu
 - 2 Volumes of Greek Tragedies
 - The Autobiography of F.B.I. Special Agent Dale Cooper
 - Love Is A Dog From Hell / Poems 1974 Â 1977 by Charles
 Bukowski
 - The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry
 - A Dictionary
 - Hitter  The Life and Turmoil’s of Ted Williams by Ed
 Linn
 - Word Virus  The William S. Burroughs Reader
 - The Random House Word Menu
 - A Fine Balance by Rohnton Mistry (Hard Cover)
 THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!
 
 
 
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         | Jarworski
             from Wales on 2001-12-27 21:24 [#00064450]
        
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 | Shame you don't live here, you can return anything for any reason within 21 days
 
 
 
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         | /-T|K|R-\
             from the start on 2001-12-27 22:15 [#00064456]
        
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 | www.easyaddiction.com for all your needs, hope this helps it work for me.
 
 
 
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         | corngrower
             from Iowa on 2001-12-27 22:21 [#00064457]
        
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 | If i were you, I would definetly exchange DOA3 for halo. I've played halo, and it is definetly the shit, better than
 DOA3 no doubt.  havnt played max payne yet, but it does look
 quite good.
 You should rent halo and max payne, in order to see which
 game you would enjoy more before comitting.
 
 
 
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-27 23:16 [#00064482]
        
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 | ^ that's $8, fuckit, I'm going for Halo...my bro said it was terrific
 
 
 
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         | Joyrex
             from joyrex.com, of course! on 2001-12-27 23:31 [#00064487]
        
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 | But, the Xbox is somewhat difficult to find - remember in 00 when the PS2 was going for 3 and 4 times it's value on Ebay?
 The Xbox is still hot right now, you could probably end up
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         | revpersona
             on 2001-12-28 00:30 [#00064499]
        
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 | CC sucked? lol.  CC was better than the FF's on PS(exception tactics).  If I were you, go return/trade-in your x-box for
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2001-12-28 03:20 [#00064525]
        
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 | cc sucked compared to chrono trigger ff7 did the series justice
 
 cc is still an amazing game...and good god FFTactics fucking
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         | Xanatos
             from NYC on 2002-01-13 07:01 [#00069069]
        
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 | Finally got my PS2!  Just thought you'd all like to know! It took much wheeling and dealing but it's mine, all mine!
 Muahahahaha etc. etc.
 
 
 
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         | grinningcat
             from london on 2002-01-13 12:49 [#00069147]
        
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 | the best value for money and quality of gaming choice is to download a SNES emulator, then download loads of classic
 games for it!!!
 
 nintendo rules!!! i dont care whether there are only 3 games
 for the gamecube, i'd buy it just for those 3. zelda is
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         | /-T|K|R-\
             from the start on 2002-01-13 12:53 [#00069148]
        
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