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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 04:28 [#01132664]
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Hi, I just wanted to ponder the fun correlation of what people like to play and what they like to listen to.
Sorry, by 'what people like to play' I'm referring to instruments which are either entirely not or only slightly electrically enhanced.. so, clarinet, bass guitar, piano, etc. You can put DJ table or computer keyboard if you want but that complicates the relation..
Anyway, I play violin, though I like piano quite a bit, and I really like autechre. Study the correlation at your leisure.
This is my sad attempt at a topic which is hopefully mildly interesting and not too heavy. I tried to make my language less annoying. The auxiliary selfish experiment in this experiment is how badly I fail.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 04:29 [#01132665]
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oh the title was 'acoustic instruments <--> preferred listening' and the associative symbol got swallowed--sorry.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 04:43 [#01132668]
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yeah.. you mean that people who play guitar don't always prefer listening to dave matthews over aphex twin?
I've never encountered one...
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 04:45 [#01132669]
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I play the piano, and I love autechre. I am also a master of the Penondesk.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 04:46 [#01132671]
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Turntables. You can play them acoustically- they're just quiet ;)
I used to play guitar/violin, but I never got very good at either. Same with piano and glockenspiel, but I'm even worse at them. I used to be a reasonable singer as a kid (I was in a few choirs), but I never bothered to re-learn how to sing when my voice broke so I don't/can't sing now.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 04:51 [#01132680]
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I've never really had any "classical" training in anything, but I play the piano pretty good, I think.
I'm also very good at slide-guitar (anyone would be) plus I play didgeridoo, jews-harp, accordion, flute and drums. I also twist and turn knobs (+soon turntables). I'm not a genious at any of them, but I can produce melodies.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 05:01 [#01132690]
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Drunken (your first post): I tried not to imply any correlation. You'll note that my situation is a contradtiction to what you said.
Drunken (your second post): nice, and how does that correlate with what you like to listen to? Most of it will of course be related but I'm sure there is some weirdness.
It's just nice to see how varied things are.. humans get bored
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 05:03 [#01132692]
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I kinda guessed you play piano (haven't been on here long enough to see you mention it). Is Penondesk a name for a piece of electronic equipment you have, or a term of endearment for your unfortunately funnily shaped penis?
I could have removed 'electronic' from the second sentence and chauvanist male humor would render the former and latter identical.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:07 [#01132698]
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I listen to Jazz, Nu-jazz, Aphex, Hip-hop (actually, that's what I listen to the most), trip-hop, certain classical things...
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 05:11 [#01132707]
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so it relates pretty cleanly.. In my case I'll eventually complete the circle by making some electronic music, but for now the deficiency I guess can be considered to induce some tension..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:13 [#01132709]
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and how it relates.. well.. maybe 'cause I'm a "jack of all trades," I often try transferring methods from one instrument to another (like slide on a piano...). I think that the "newness" (they don't repeat stuff from their own genre) of the artists I like listening to is what attracts me.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 05:13 [#01132710]
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No, the Penondesk is a fantastic instrument which is played by hitting a pen on a desk. I would love to discuss my funnily shaped penis (which does happen to be electronic, by the way) but alas, that would be off-topic. I'll save it for another thread.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:14 [#01132712]
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i like the hybrid sound.
guitar, piano, drums AND electronics and heavy processing.
thats my bread and butter, any form its in:
beck, flaming lips, radiohead, puppy (!), anywhere. kinda seems like somethign the beatles (and beach boys' pet sounds) started and has just lived on, mutating and growing.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-05 05:16 [#01132713]
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Holy shit, I should change my avatar to 'idiot warning' after missing that one. I could have pretended that my more complicated jabs were crafted with full awareness of the obvious one, but .. eh.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:35 [#01132721]
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Ha ha, I actually "drum" using two pens and the edge of my desk to work out my hi hat and snares for drum loops :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:36 [#01132722]
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I normally beatbox microbeats with my teeth and tongue.. then I arrange it like that...
I think that will change, 'cause it can't be good for my teeth...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:40 [#01132723]
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I do that if I'm driving. It sounds rubbish, so I'd never record it and use it in a track, but it helps me examine a rhythm I have in my head.
Something I've toyed with the idea of, but I've not done yet, it to record me beat boxing with a mic, but then simply sync up real drum sounds to the rhythm of the beat box file without keeping any of the sounds from that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:43 [#01132724]
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something like this?
(one beatbox-track (razhel), another beatbox-track (also razhel, just doing some kung-fu shit) + gypsy drums (played by my cousin))
Stream
DL
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 06:04 [#01132747]
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Yeah that's not bad stuff :) I like Razhel. He's good live, but his shows are a bit samey (always does the two notes at once thing and largely the same "party tricks", even if the tracks differ). I think beatboxing is one of those things like DJing where to do really great, inventive stuff live you need a team. One guy is fine, but it's limited what they can do.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-05 06:07 [#01132750]
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I can play the piano (not great but... 'fair'). I enjoy clinking on a guitar, but I haven't got one + I don't really know any chords.
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princess chimpy
from the secret place (New Zealand) on 2004-04-05 06:07 [#01132751]
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i play 6 instruments. Its fun.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 06:09 [#01132753]
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All at once? :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 06:10 [#01132754]
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yeah, I know.. he's a bit repetitive, but he's fucking amazing! there's nothing he can't do with that mouth (except fit a whale, a tiger and two armadillos into it)!
(those samples in that song were from some live-show.. probably the one that's most easily-accessible through the internet. We just found it, sliced it and sequenced. needs EQ).
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 06:22 [#01132772]
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I am able to 'emulate' trumpet, bass and drums using my mouth :) but cannot play any instrument :(
Sometimes I play some tune on my 'trumpet' and then put it into sequencer - same thing with beats/bass.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 06:28 [#01132780]
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I play percussion instruments but struggle with the melodic types (play piano / classical guitar badly)
But I discovered a neat trick the other day.
Using a peice of software called Melodyne, i am able to convert my voice to midi.
This enables me to hum a tune into my sampler and convert it to note information. So i no longer lose the idea in my head before technical difficulties with instruments mutate or destroy it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 06:31 [#01132783]
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on that note: if a vocoder is too expensive, try putting a tube (one of those that go in and out (they are "jagged," in a way) into your mouth (put it in your cheeks outside your teeth), blow into it (with a hair-dryer or preferrably something which won't heat up too fast) from the other end and make sound! It's used in 2pac - California Love (you thought that was a vocoder, didn't you?!))
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 06:34 [#01132787]
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OMG! I want to have such stuff!
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 06:39 [#01132791]
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Celemony Melodyne
It is supposed to be used as an "Auto Tune / Variphrase sampler" but the MIDI export allows for a bit of mis-use.
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 07:19 [#01132823]
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I wish I had a mic...
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 07:22 [#01132825]
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Mic's are overrated, use headphones instead.
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2004-04-05 09:15 [#01132936]
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I sing a bit, play tambourine and other frame/hand drums (would like to muck about with a bodhran), play pennywhistle, would like to get a harmonium and eventually learn to fiddle. Pipe and tabor would be kind of neat to learn as well.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-04-05 23:02 [#01134027]
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ewwwww hybrid stuff makes me cringe most of the time. especially electronic/non-electric hybrids. most hybrids just kind of seem like people couldn't think of anything better than putting two existing genres together in the hopes of creating something new. in my opinion, that is.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-06 02:17 [#01134067]
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I have a VERY detuned cithar.
it has 74 or 49 strings or something like that... it makes noise.
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