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offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 04:28 [#01132664]
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Hi, I just wanted to ponder the fun correlation of what
people like to play and what they like to listen to.

Sorry, by 'what people like to play' I'm referring to
instruments which are either entirely not or only slightly
electrically enhanced.. so, clarinet, bass guitar, piano,
etc. You can put DJ table or computer keyboard if you want
but that complicates the relation..

Anyway, I play violin, though I like piano quite a bit, and
I really like autechre. Study the correlation at your
leisure.

This is my sad attempt at a topic which is hopefully mildly
interesting and not too heavy. I tried to make my language
less annoying. The auxiliary selfish experiment in this
experiment is how badly I fail.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 04:29 [#01132665]
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oh the title was 'acoustic instruments <--> preferred
listening' and the associative symbol got swallowed--sorry.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 04:43 [#01132668]
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yeah.. you mean that people who play guitar don't always
prefer listening to dave matthews over aphex twin?

I've never encountered one...


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 04:45 [#01132669]
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I play the piano, and I love autechre. I am also a master of
the Penondesk.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 04:46 [#01132671]
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Turntables. You can play them acoustically- they're just
quiet ;)

I used to play guitar/violin, but I never got very good at
either. Same with piano and glockenspiel, but I'm even worse
at them. I used to be a reasonable singer as a kid (I was in
a few choirs), but I never bothered to re-learn how to sing
when my voice broke so I don't/can't sing now.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 04:51 [#01132680]
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I've never really had any "classical" training in anything,
but I play the piano pretty good, I think.

I'm also very good at slide-guitar (anyone would be) plus I
play didgeridoo, jews-harp, accordion, flute and drums. I
also twist and turn knobs (+soon turntables). I'm not a
genious at any of them, but I can produce melodies.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:01 [#01132690]
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Drunken (your first post): I tried not to imply any
correlation. You'll note that my situation is a
contradtiction to what you said.

Drunken (your second post): nice, and how does that
correlate with what you like to listen to? Most of it will
of course be related but I'm sure there is some weirdness.

It's just nice to see how varied things are.. humans get
bored


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:03 [#01132692]
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I kinda guessed you play piano (haven't been on here long
enough to see you mention it). Is Penondesk a name for a
piece of electronic equipment you have, or a term of
endearment for your unfortunately funnily shaped penis?

I could have removed 'electronic' from the second sentence
and chauvanist male humor would render the former and latter
identical.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:07 [#01132698]
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I listen to Jazz, Nu-jazz, Aphex, Hip-hop (actually, that's
what I listen to the most), trip-hop, certain classical
things...


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:11 [#01132707]
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so it relates pretty cleanly.. In my case I'll eventually
complete the circle by making some electronic music, but for
now the deficiency I guess can be considered to induce some
tension..


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:13 [#01132709]
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and how it relates.. well.. maybe 'cause I'm a "jack of all
trades," I often try transferring methods from one
instrument to another (like slide on a piano...). I think
that the "newness" (they don't repeat stuff from their own
genre) of the artists I like listening to is what attracts
me.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 05:13 [#01132710]
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No, the Penondesk is a fantastic instrument which is played
by hitting a pen on a desk. I would love to discuss my
funnily shaped penis (which does happen to be electronic, by
the way) but alas, that would be off-topic. I'll save it for
another thread.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:14 [#01132712]
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i like the hybrid sound.

guitar, piano, drums AND electronics and heavy processing.

thats my bread and butter, any form its in:

beck, flaming lips, radiohead, puppy (!), anywhere.
kinda seems like somethign the beatles (and beach boys' pet
sounds) started and has just lived on, mutating and growing.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:16 [#01132713]
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Holy shit, I should change my avatar to 'idiot warning'
after missing that one. I could have pretended that my more
complicated jabs were crafted with full awareness of the
obvious one, but .. eh.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:35 [#01132721]
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Ha ha, I actually "drum" using two pens and the edge of my
desk to work out my hi hat and snares for drum loops :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:36 [#01132722]
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I normally beatbox microbeats with my teeth and tongue..
then I arrange it like that...

I think that will change, 'cause it can't be good for my
teeth...



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:40 [#01132723]
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I do that if I'm driving. It sounds rubbish, so I'd never
record it and use it in a track, but it helps me examine a
rhythm I have in my head.

Something I've toyed with the idea of, but I've not done
yet, it to record me beat boxing with a mic, but then simply
sync up real drum sounds to the rhythm of the beat box file
without keeping any of the sounds from that.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 05:43 [#01132724]
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something like this?

(one beatbox-track (razhel), another beatbox-track (also
razhel, just doing some kung-fu shit) + gypsy drums (played
by my cousin))

Stream

DL


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 06:04 [#01132747]
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Yeah that's not bad stuff :)
I like Razhel. He's good live, but his shows are a bit samey
(always does the two notes at once thing and largely the
same "party tricks", even if the tracks differ). I think
beatboxing is one of those things like DJing where to do
really great, inventive stuff live you need a team. One guy
is fine, but it's limited what they can do.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-05 06:07 [#01132750]
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I can play the piano (not great but... 'fair').
I enjoy clinking on a guitar, but I haven't got one + I
don't really know any chords.


 

offline princess chimpy from the secret place (New Zealand) on 2004-04-05 06:07 [#01132751]
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i play 6 instruments. Its fun.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 06:09 [#01132753]
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All at once? :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 06:10 [#01132754]
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yeah, I know.. he's a bit repetitive, but he's fucking
amazing! there's nothing he can't do with that mouth (except
fit a whale, a tiger and two armadillos into it)!

(those samples in that song were from some live-show..
probably the one that's most easily-accessible through the
internet. We just found it, sliced it and sequenced. needs
EQ).


 

offline Sempoo from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 06:22 [#01132772]
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I am able to 'emulate' trumpet, bass and drums using my
mouth :) but cannot play any instrument :(
Sometimes I play some tune on my 'trumpet' and then put it
into sequencer - same thing with beats/bass.


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 06:28 [#01132780]
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I play percussion instruments but struggle with the melodic
types (play piano / classical guitar badly)

But I discovered a neat trick the other day.

Using a peice of software called Melodyne, i am able to
convert my voice to midi.

This enables me to hum a tune into my sampler and convert it
to note information. So i no longer lose the idea in my
head before technical difficulties with instruments mutate
or destroy it.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 06:31 [#01132783]
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on that note: if a vocoder is too expensive, try putting a
tube (one of those that go in and out (they are "jagged," in
a way) into your mouth (put it in your cheeks outside your
teeth), blow into it (with a hair-dryer or preferrably
something which won't heat up too fast) from the other end
and make sound! It's used in 2pac - California Love (you
thought that was a vocoder, didn't you?!))


 

offline Sempoo from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 06:34 [#01132787]
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OMG!
I want to have such stuff!


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 06:39 [#01132791]
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Celemony Melodyne

It is supposed to be used as an "Auto Tune / Variphrase
sampler" but the MIDI export allows for a bit of mis-use.


 

offline Sempoo from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-04-05 07:19 [#01132823]
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I wish I had a mic...


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 07:22 [#01132825]
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Mic's are overrated, use headphones instead.


 

offline Ganymede from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2004-04-05 09:15 [#01132936]
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I sing a bit, play tambourine and other frame/hand drums
(would like to muck about with a bodhran), play
pennywhistle, would like to get a harmonium and eventually
learn to fiddle. Pipe and tabor would be kind of neat to
learn as well.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-04-05 23:02 [#01134027]
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ewwwww hybrid stuff makes me cringe most of the time.
especially electronic/non-electric hybrids. most hybrids
just kind of seem like people couldn't think of anything
better than putting two existing genres together in the
hopes of creating something new. in my opinion, that is.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-06 02:17 [#01134067]
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I have a VERY detuned cithar.

it has 74 or 49 strings or something like that... it makes
noise.


 


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