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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 21:56 [#01129357]
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I posted a steaming mass of drivel in the thread which unforunately morphed into autechre bashing panic, and just thought I'd start a nice clean slate of happy autechre talk. Please overrun it with insults directed at my glorious existence.
My last violently interesting thread was cohesion between tracks.. now I'm going to scream about their melodic sense. I'd just like to point out two pairs of melodies which are _very_ close:
yulquen <--> eggshell pen expers <--> vletrmx
I'm as verbose as death isn't, so I'm going to shut up now, but look forward to hearing about other related autechre melodies people like, comments on their general melodic structure, how wrong I am, and what isn't for dinner.
damn I'm suppressing the urge to write pages again. I'm like this in real life too--it's really dreary.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 21:58 [#01129359]
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crap I have to say something. amber is obviously very melody driven (some would say this is a redundant comment because _everything_ should be melody-centric), and I like how it progresses to the very nasty sounding bass line of teartear, which by the way contains the very rare interval (in basslines in this genre) of a minor 10th..
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:01 [#01129362]
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not very into autechre... but among their melodic tracks that I have heard, I like "Arch Carrier" and "Gantz Graf" (although GG is not very melodic driven)...
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 22:02 [#01129363]
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hi, if you don't like their stuff, 444, windwind, teartear, and eggshell are all excellent and very accessible melodic tracks.
By accessible I don't mean "I'm great, I see things you don't", or "four turnips makes coffee green!", but rather "you hate their stuff but this may bring a smile"
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 22:06 [#01129364]
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i think gantz graf IS very melodic, just not overly notey.
what is that saying, its not about what strokes the painter makes, but which ones he DOESnt?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:06 [#01129365]
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did you read my post or not? I just think your reply is a bit weird considering what I wrote in it.
But yeah I know there is some good autechre out there that I need to check out.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 22:08 [#01129367]
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yeah, read it. I just gave suggestions, 'tis all.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:12 [#01129372]
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yes, but you started out by saying "if you don't like their stuff" and I just explained I did (atleast I didn't say anything about NOT likeing autechre)...
yeahz tibbz, GG is quite melodic... I thought that word meant something else... anyway I looked it up.
And I think GG is melodic, yes.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 22:17 [#01129375]
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I quote: "not very into autechre... ". That means 'at the moment, I can't say I am very interested in them'
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:27 [#01129377]
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sorry if I am steering this topic off-topic now but
That means 'at the moment, I can't say I am very interested in them'
yes it does. But it doesn't mean I don't like their work. Just that I listen to a lot of other stuff at the moment. Once I have a hole to fill, autechre is part of what I want to fill it with.
I can still have an opinion about what I have heard of their work, and I do like most of it.
So, no I am not into them, but I do like most of what I have heard of their work.
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 22:30 [#01129378]
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my apologies. I was careful to write 'at the moment' in my definition because I guessed what you meant, but then proceeded to flog a dead horse in a heinous act of violence and debauchery (against everything).
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:36 [#01129380]
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no problem... You use a lot of beautiful words and expressions when you write, but me not being very good at english (my 2nd language) don't understand all of it.
I guess this could be a chance to get better at learning english, and I'm absolutely not telling you to simplify your language, I just want you to know, that's how it is.
peaces!
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-04-01 22:37 [#01129381]
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I mean I can, of course 'guess' what the words mean through what context their used in, but it's not the same...
anyway it's a cold morning here today (-3 C right now).
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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 22:40 [#01129383]
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wow, what a nice thing to say. My english is sometimes weird because I read only technical manuals.. but anyway, cheers! I'm in NYC, it's 7 C right now, enough of a difference to make it infinitely more pleasant. some crappy rain, though.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-04-01 23:59 [#01129419]
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this thread has a lot of words.
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kc
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 00:04 [#01129430]
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I got all hot when people start talking about technical music stuff like using a "minor 10th" or something like that. I looooooove reading details about time signatures or how certain melodies are unique in their construction.
I demand more discussion of this nature. Please :)
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kc
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 00:07 [#01129432]
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But while we're at it
"yulquen <--> eggshell pen expers <--> vletrmx"
I agree, though I had never heard it that way until listening to those melodies just now.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-04-02 00:08 [#01129434]
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Ae is pretty freeform, if you like odd structures V snares does a nice 7/4
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kc
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-02 00:28 [#01129445]
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Einstein-Rosen Bridge. Weird weird beat. So good.
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