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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-22 04:14 [#00063430] | |||||||||
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hello, i've just updated my ampcast page..and have added a *bunch* of new songs go and check them out if you will..and fun times will be had by all.. feel free to tell me what you think..(i probably wouldnt be posting this if i didnt care..not that i do or anything...) http://www.ampcast.com/ford_prefect (oh, and i'd recommend the ones towards the top, as theyre the newest ones ..and my favorites of the bunch) |
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Taoist Blockade from Vancouver Canada on 2001-12-22 04:23 [#00063431] | |||||||||
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I think your melodies are great, I think your beats are a little generic. All these songs had great potential for me until the beats kicked in, I think you need to use some more interesting sounds rythm wise. What synth are you using on the first song during the intro? |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-22 05:34 [#00063454] | |||||||||
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yeah, on most of those songs i was going for a more straightforward drum n bass sound beatwise...so i was using mostly standard dnb sounds/rhythms.. i think i got that out of my system though...(they were starting to sound a bit bland to me also..i've been working on those songs for a while now..and figured i'd finish em up and move on..) the synth i used for the melodies on all the new tracks is called sawcutter.. its a free tracker program (i'd tell you where to find it but i forget..) |
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m on 2001-12-23 00:19 [#00063628] | |||||||||
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fantastic stuff, nice song names and a nice pointless image of goldfish crackers:). 53 more things to do in 0 gravity: It's just the right complexity to be an apealing song. At about 2:00, it mutates somehow away from a nice beat into a weird clumsy beat which was cool. What do you use, sorry if you told me b4 already. Whatever it is, you easily (or maybe tediously) manage to use volume well, like some drum hits are louder than others. The melody is really unusual for some reason, it sounds like it was made seperately without thinking about how it would sound with the percussiony stuff, but it works great a melow background element. |
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m on 2001-12-23 00:23 [#00063631] | |||||||||
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god damn! cloudburst demonstrates use of volume even better (volume is just a difficult thing to use in modplug tracker which is what I use). It has another ambientish background melody like the previous song, not really ambient, just mellow... I especially love in multiple songs I've heard how the percussion etc just kicks into extremely aggressive agitated moments practically without warning (also like "let the base kick", I think from squarepusher?) |
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m on 2001-12-23 00:32 [#00063633] | |||||||||
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trillian, electric sulking machine, ball point life forms equally amazing. More mellow melodies with interesting percussion stuff. I think you have the concept that stuff is relative in music. For example you can have an entire song of very complex drums, but it has nothing simple to stand out from in order to be complex. But if you put complexity next to something that is more simple than it, the effect is far more interesting. An example is about 2:30 on ball point life forms (and many other examples). I hope you're still planning to send a cd to me sometime in the future and I'll send mine to you whenever I get around to making it if you want. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-23 02:44 [#00063646] | |||||||||
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wow, thanks m.. i use tuareg (beats+sequencing) and sawcutter(melodies). and yeah, i was thinking about putting together a cd soon...we can trade :) and ill have to go check out what you've been doing, havent been to your site in a while.. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-24 00:32 [#00063816] | |||||||||
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your stuff is so complex, m..its really quite amazing...how long does it usually take you to do a song? do you create all the sounds yourself, or do use some samples? i mean like the liquidy-bubbly sound on 'a fractal brewing of fraggles' ... great titles and descriptions too... "This song becomes more and more writhing with muppety creatures that just beg to be squished. The mic is tested by one of them before unleashing sound that can shrink a muppet's left brain hemisphere." :) ..you could probably make a lot of money writing fucked up childrens' stories..you could start releasing albums in little chunky-page storybooks like radiohead did with kid a have you heard of blectum from blechdom? their music is a bit like your own..plus they have this whole complicated mythology involving all these bizarre characters..you should check them out, if you havent already, that is.. anyhoo...keep it up..and you should definatly think of putting a cd together..i would surely buy it.. |
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m on 2001-12-24 03:21 [#00063836] | |||||||||
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The time it takes varies from song to song... I often work on multiple ones at the same time, Plus a lot of time is spent just listening to it, not altering data, or trying various directions to take it and deleting failed ideas. I don't create any of the "1st generation" samples (because I don't have a microphone and can't) These are just simple sounds downloaded from the internet or found in my computers innards by searching for wav in the "find files or folders". I enter data in a way so that I create sounds pretty much absolutely unrelated to the samples I use, it's sort of like how complex language can be constructed from some handful of letters and sounds (I only use a handful of samples, because I never downloaded any more- it's probably about time to though as that voice sound I use in so many songs). I like finding techniques. Thanks a lot for your interesting kind comments, I'll check out that group you suggested. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-24 05:30 [#00063847] | |||||||||
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yeah, a lot of the sounds i use are from the game rogue spear...theres a folder of tons of sounds, some of which you dont even really notice in the game..like the sound of trees creaking, etc..that and a few obscene vocal samples from the internet :) ...though i did recently figure out how to make weird bubbly-gurgly popping noises with my program's standard percussion sounds |
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m on 2001-12-24 08:04 [#00063880] | |||||||||
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I want to eventually take the fears that have been embedded naturally by evolution into the minds of people during their long time spent as hunter/gatherers and primates. Sounds like growling bears, or any other dangerous animals, crunching leaves like something stalking you, and use a bunch of samples like that, crickets, things that we have a deep subconscious feel for, like a fear of spiders, (but they don't make much sound). Get out of the artificial safety of modern life. I also think that our minds construction in a way as to understand and enjoy music has a lot to do with our use of language. I've found that human voice is the most interesting thing to use as a sample in sound(to me) perhaps because of subconscious interest in syllables due to the meaning we give them when we talk. Even when someone else uses it, like autechre did a lot on tri repatae, nothing decipheable or meaningful, just as an interesting sound. I've noticed cats generally find music unpleasant, and if we sent a record to an alien civilization, maybe their minds havn't evolved in a way to care at all about "music". Maybe they could simply look at the grooves in the record and find it's information more interesting. Maybe your stuff sounds more original than most peoples because you use equipment that few people use. Where'd you even hear of tuareg or sawcutter? (I use modplug tracker, and I recently found a switch to amplify the volume so it isn't always so quiet which is good) Did you delete your "wayout" alias on ampcast? I really recommend Crunch's "1" if you havn't gotten it. It's available at www.forcedexposure.com. If you liked "a fractal brewing of fraggles" even a little you'd definately like that. It's probably my favorite or a close tie with autechre of all albums I've heard. My email is iannoll@hotmail.com, can I have yours just so I don't lose contact with you in case we decide to trade albums sometime? |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-24 21:32 [#00063959] | |||||||||
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yeah, ive used a lot of bug sounds from rogue spear in songs..voice samples too..both i think can give electronic music a more organic feel..kinda like later ae...a lot of the sounds they use remind me of bugs what you were saying about vocals is interesting..maybe thats why most people tend to shy away from instrumental music..the response i usually get when i try to introduce people to the music i like is "isnt there any singing?" its like people feel more comfortable hearing someones voice...even if their not listening to/understanding what their saying..kind like sigur ros' music...they make really destinctly emotional music..but most of their lyrics are mostly in an imaginary language (some are in icelandic..) as for my software...i found it all just by searching for free music software at downloads.com i dont think its really that different from what others use...maybe like fruityloops with less features? i havent really tried much other software..so i dont really know.. i'll have to check out crunch..i've been meaning to for a while now...i'll have money after christmas..and i was planning on heading over to forcedexposure anyways..they seem pretty cool, i have an order in the mail from them at the moment.. oh, and i didnt delete the wayout alias..i just changed it to ford prefect...though i think im going to change it again...heheh my email is: rhogan@fc.meca.edu |
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m on 2001-12-25 05:21 [#00063993] | |||||||||
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I havn't tried anything else besides modplug tracker either, but reaktor and reason I hear are some of the better ones. |
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Nazi Pokemon from UK on 2001-12-25 20:33 [#00064034] | |||||||||
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did i hear your stuf on the joyrex.com board? blueform righT? http://adikt.cjb.net |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-25 21:16 [#00064049] | |||||||||
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yes, tis me i listened to your stuff as well |
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Netlon Sentinel from yurp on 2001-12-25 21:21 [#00064051] | |||||||||
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sounds like somebody's a big fan of the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy! cheers! :) |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-25 21:29 [#00064055] | |||||||||
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heheh..how could you tell? .. i have to get myself to the library to get 'the restaraunt at the end of the universe'..soon |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-12-26 04:46 [#00064099] | |||||||||
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damn, ive been feeling pretty prolific lately..and because of the *overwhelming* demand ..i have added several brand spanking new tracks to my site (since i started this thread, that is)...they even have that new track smell to them still... ok, i'll leave everyone alone now for a while...;) |
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