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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-24 12:18 [#01285171]
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dunno, why so many consider it to be arty...it's just a film with nice scennery, music and bill murray, who's brilliant. and well, feelings. not really arty.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-07-24 12:20 [#01285172]
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and that's the thing, I just don't understand what is so brilliant about Bill Murray's performance... I have no idea at all... and it actually kinda annoyed me that he was nominated for an accademy award for it...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-24 12:22 [#01285174]
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well, there's no way anyone could do better this part...it just seemed totally real. not many actors can do that. and on top of it all he's one of the funniest people.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-07-24 12:24 [#01285176]
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shrug... I guess this is the type of movie you either get, or you don't... and I don't...
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-24 13:32 [#01285254]
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i got it
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-24 15:53 [#01285329]
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shame rreally and yes Bill was damn grreat in it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-24 15:56 [#01285334]
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Sorrrry but once again I'd just like to say how damn much I liked this film. It makes such a change to see a new film that's had as much hype as Spiderman, that's actually good. I'd watch it now but I'm boarrderr line drrunk.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-24 15:58 [#01285336]
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so, what do you like to watch when you're drunk?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-24 16:00 [#01285339]
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Nothing. I just post herre then go to sleep.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-24 16:02 [#01285342]
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haha...xltronic > tv
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-07-24 20:32 [#01285486]
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I just watched this for the first time tonight. I enjoyed it. I'm bad at describing films so I don't think I'll try, but it gets a solid thumbs up from me.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-07-24 21:12 [#01285488]
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Well, if there's anything I got out of this film, it's that it shows that Sofia Coppola uses surrealism in Lost in Translation just as her dad (Francis Ford) did in Apocalypse Now!
If that means anything...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-24 21:34 [#01285495]
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well, seeing as lots of directors use surrealism in their films, it doesn't really, no..
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-07-24 21:47 [#01285496]
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pretty fucking lame portrayal of japan and japanese people, but i guess thats the point. well shot though and good music.
and what is brilliant about murray again? maybe i missed something..did anyone actually find this movie remotely funny?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-24 21:49 [#01285497]
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"pretty fucking lame portrayal of japan and japanese people"
umm, it got nothing to do with japan or japanese people...it just so happens that they met there..that's it. ahh
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-24 22:43 [#01285515]
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there were several parts that i laughed out loud to. i think a part of his brilliance was the perfect comedic timing and delivery that fit within the confines of the serious dramatic movie.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-25 03:26 [#01285593]
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quality film, I really can't wait to get in on DVD. Its one of those rare films that come out on nowhere and ends up being one of the best films you've seen for a while. If it wasn't for films like this and 'Eternal Sunshine...' I probably wouldn't watch a hollywood film ever again.
Anyone got the DVD yet? What are the extras like? Its only £12.99 on play.com so really i should just get it but i've just ordered the new ipod so...
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 05:03 [#01285618]
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I got it. Therre's a 'Lost on Location' Documentarry. Some deleted scenes, an interrview with Sofia Coppola and Bill Murray, City Girl the video and do you know that chat show that Bob goes on in the film... well you get to see a full 10 minutes of that as if we arre watching it on japanese TV. that's it, i think.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-07-25 05:07 [#01285620]
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That Japanese TV show was pretty awesome if you ask me.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-25 05:43 [#01285630]
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"Lost" on Location Matthew's Best Hit TV Kevin Shields' "City Girl" Music Video Deleted Scenes A Conversation with Bill Murray and Sofia Coppola Theatrical Trailer
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 05:53 [#01285636]
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Oh and a Theatrrical Trrailerr
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-25 05:56 [#01285639]
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that interview with sophia and bill is really nice btw...so are some of those deleted scenes, and lost on loacation - especially coz of bill making fun out of everyone :)
definitely worths getting the dvd imo.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-25 08:57 [#01285730]
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I just watched it for the first time last night, in the dark with a beer, and it was a fucking joy. I think it's a very human film, about real imperfect people. A lot of people moan about the lack of "character development" and "plot" but where in life is this fucking "character development", how much does anyone's character develop over a few days in Tokyo...where's the "plot" in life... I've never been to Tokyo but after the film I do feel like I've spent a week there. I really don't understand how anyone could be negative about this film, but I think a lot of people are angrier with the hype. As I rarely watch the tv or read magazines I guess I was lucky just to see it without that distraction. In summary, this film has a human heart that is rarely present in cinema.
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nacmat
on 2004-07-25 09:00 [#01285731]
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I liked it a lot
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-07-25 09:03 [#01285735]
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its beautiful
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-07-25 09:24 [#01285753]
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yes, i think you're right. the characters are so believable, and so is the situation. that makes it extremely appealing.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-25 09:26 [#01285754]
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unfortunately it lacks a bit of good old american rambo action :(
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-25 09:45 [#01285769]
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it has a lot to do with expectations about film, especially the dramaturgy you expect.
some people have a very set idea about what they want from a film - they want a story. they want things happening that are consequential to eachother. they want lead characters that go through some kind of (lineair) development. in other words, they expect a western dramaturgy.
when someone with that idea about films sees LiT, they don't get a story/plot and thus get irritated.
like I said before in this thread, the film follows a more traditional east-asian dramaturgy (hardly any plot, little human psychology, more about atmosphere).
I loved it, exactly because of the reasons you mentioned. I think it hits a nerve with "our generation" because a lot of people in our age-group are like the Johanssen-character (and the Murray-character too, he's just an older version that has accepted this state more) - perpetually lost, having little sense of direction and missing something. it hit a nerve with me because of this.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-07-25 09:49 [#01285773]
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Amen to that
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-07-25 10:05 [#01285782]
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i have to agree with qrter (and dog_belch) again...but it's ok, it's been quite a while since the last time we agreed on something.
here...a nice pic
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-25 10:16 [#01285789]
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yay qrter! yay dog-belch! yay tolstoyed!
LiT is a great movie.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-07-25 13:43 [#01286023]
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yes, it did hit a nerrve. a verry rreal nerrve.
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