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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-03-07 08:50 [#01102334]
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http://jaguaro.org/feature/archives/000007.html
pretty fucking funny and spot on sometimes
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 08:56 [#01102340]
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They're shit loads I would disagree with on that list. Beastie Boys for instance what the fuck is that guy on! Beastie Boys 'Paul's Boutique' is he out of his mind? A lot the others I could forget probably but wouldn't necessarily describe all of it as shit. And 'Music for the Gilted Generation' damn this guy is talking out of his butt!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-03-07 08:56 [#01102341]
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I love the entry for Fugazi
"Fugazi - 13 Songs Okay, Ian, we get it - don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? Oh yeah, that's right, BE A BORING PREACHY MOTHERFUCKER. Get drunk and use this one as your beer coaster."
I can't abide straight edge.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 08:59 [#01102342]
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Fugazi are a good band definitely IMO but some of the best bands/music have the shitiest and most unagreeable philosophies. That said if I listen to the lyrics and had to agree with all the lyrics of all music I'd probably listen to no bands or music at all. Vocals are just another sound and I couldn't really care what they're saying because I don't.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-07 09:03 [#01102343]
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What a sad man.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-07 09:11 [#01102352]
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i have these out of that list and im not removing them from my collection.
Public Enemy - Apocalypse '91 - The Enemy Strikes Black Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik White Stripes - White Blood Cells Chemical Bothers - Dig Your Own Hole Pulp Fiction - Original Soundtrack Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking Green Day - Dookie Erykah Badu - Mama's Gun The Roots - Things Fall Apart The Prodigy - Music for the Jilted Generation Beastie Boys - Check Your Head/Ill Communication The Doors - The Best of the Doors The Wu Tang Clan - The W
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 09:17 [#01102358]
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weeeeeell.. he's right on some, but wrong on others. more importantly, what was he doing wowning some of these albums in the first place?!
and besides, this kind of destructive criticism is easy to write..
any illiterate reprobate can knock out this kind of crass snobbery.
i could write reams and reams about everything i don't like, tossing in the odd obvious joke here + there to detract from the poor quality of the writing.
but unless you offer some kind of creative, constructive commentary about things you DO like - then why should anyone listen to a turid diatribe like that.
i wonder why he summoned the time/energy to write it.
haha come to think of it, it reminds me of the nme.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2004-03-07 09:21 [#01102361]
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very sad altogether. second time i've seen this one.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-03-07 09:22 [#01102362]
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I read it all the way through, and laughed at most of the comments, even about albums that i do like (like the Beastie Boys albums). I just don't understand the level of rabid responses that follow it. People take their pop music a tad bit seriously i suspect.
I can't abide the NME though. They killed of so many good bands through their poisonous, weird sodomistic agenda to destroy music. I think that's a different matter though.
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uzim
on 2004-03-07 09:30 [#01102366]
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well... no offense, but i think this list is just gratuitous provocation - and the person who made it got attention, and maybe it was just what he was seeking.
people really shouldn't give a flying fuck about this - who is this obscure guy, who does he think he is to tell you what albums you should or should not have in your music collection, anyway?
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uzim
on 2004-03-07 09:33 [#01102371]
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just because something is ironic or cynical, doesn't make it brilliant.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-07 09:40 [#01102377]
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I have three:
The White Stripes - White Blood Cells Radiohead - I Might Be Wrong: Live Recordings Madonna - The Immaculate Collection
I did have more, but surprisingly enough I actually did remove them from my collection.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 09:41 [#01102379]
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its not his choices that both me. im not really interested what he thinks. like i said he's right on some, wrong on others.. i think its just a shame because its people who writebadly like this who end up working for music mags + polluting a lot of impressionable music fans with their snobbery.
its just a bit boring the way trashy publications create news by building people up + tearing them down at a whim
(i realise what im talking about now goes beyond this nobody's top 100)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 09:44 [#01102381]
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uzim | yes - youre so right - thats what i was driving towards.. just making "clever" criticisms of things doesnt make you right/funny/interesting etc.
i just get a bit tired of people saying how shit everything is. i grew out of tearing everything down a long time ago.. when i realised that, if you don't put anything back in its place you end up with nothing.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-03-07 09:56 [#01102395]
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Sublime - Self-titled "What I Got's" a frightening frat-house flashback every time I hear this fucking album. Gap khaki chinos, Abercrombie pull-overs, white collegiate ball caps, shivering sorority chicks, Lycra t-shirts, midriff, the Liquor Control Board, Jessica Phillips, cheese, the top bunk. Did I mention Everclear?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-03-07 09:57 [#01102396]
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I'm going on about this a bit too much but I don't think the list is meant to be taken entirely seriously. However I think they make some valid points. Theres a billion "100 albums you must own" or, I dare say "100 long deleted electronica classics you have no chance of hearing" lists. If a "classic" can't stand negative criticism then maybe it isn't a "classic". And I don't go along with this thing that all music is worthy, that any recording is better than silence. The only reason you could get worked up about it is if your self esteem is index linked to your CD collection. When I moved i threw away about 500 CDs, now that's a list noone would want to read.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-07 09:58 [#01102398]
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i know its not meant to be taken seriously..
..all im saying is it's not that funny either.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-03-07 10:17 [#01102411]
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i dont like removing things i've paid for
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-03-07 10:19 [#01102412]
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theres not even one braindance release mentioned
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-03-07 10:21 [#01102413]
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Nevermind Physical Graffiti Dig Your Own Hole Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
All great albums.
Dunno if this guy is serious.
And to be honest, i couldnt give a fuck
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xceque
on 2004-03-07 10:26 [#01102416]
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I got bored reading it at about #15. Then skimmed through to find the Trainspotting soundtrack and got disapointed when it wasn't there. I have 17 of them.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-07 10:46 [#01102422]
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I was expecting a bit more from "trout mask replica", an album which I love, but there isn't much there.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-03-07 10:59 [#01102430]
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i agree. dark side of the moon is a fucking spectacular album. but hey, this guy's on a webpage and can voice his opinion, so that must make give it some shred of merit.
:rolleyes:
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rez
from here on 2004-03-07 11:14 [#01102443]
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i have 13 of those albums. I agree on 'nevermind' but I can't believe captain beefheart is on the list!
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2004-03-07 12:20 [#01102511]
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wow. all i can say is....what power. what authority. hey i just realized...this IS my music collection! i'm a sad person.
CACK
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-07 12:25 [#01102519]
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White Stripes - White Blood Cells I know that they're absolutely adorable, they may or may not be siblings (how mysterious!), and they turn down million-dollar Gap ads, but is anyone tired of The White Stripes yet? I guess indie rock hipsters are as starved for something seemingly new as the general public is, though I thought we already went through this bluesy punk thing in the early-90s with the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. Now that it's 2002, you can safely close the books on The White Stripes (and The Strokes) without losing your indie cred.
HAHA! Its so true, goddamn fake bands.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-07 12:29 [#01102527]
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you picked out stripes from all those 100 albums? hehe, they must have really done something terrible to you :)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-07 12:33 [#01102537]
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haha!.. no... im just being a dick about it, out of all thoes cds I could easily argue many , but I mean why even bother listening to this guy, these are just his opinions, i wish I could get paid to have people listen to my opinion! ..... well its funny really, i wouldnt throw anything away from my collection unless I wanted to.
oh yeah baby. im bored today.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-03-07 15:27 [#01102686]
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anytime someone argues that "people only say they like this so that other people will think they're cool," i generally assume that the person making the argument once said they liked something so that other people would think they were cool, and now assumes that anyone who likes something that they do not like does so because they want to seem cool.
the essence of all music criticism is subjective opinion, which is why a music critic feels compelled to entertain, and failing that, to provoke.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-07 16:11 [#01102715]
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i'm only half way through that list and there are loads of selections i'd dissagree with. WTF are these doing in the list:
NIN Sonic Youth Jane's Addiction Tori Amos Nick Cave Cocteau Twins The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band The Cult
And thats just scanning through the list.
bah, who cares
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ifkardo
from 785.8 mb of radio babylon (Equatorial Guinea) on 2004-03-07 16:21 [#01102728]
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U2:joshua tree Dave Brubeck:time out Chemical Brothers:dig yoour own hole
and im out,
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-03-07 19:35 [#01102874]
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I've had that bookmarked for a long time, I love it! I own a shitload of those, and love them all. It's just silly willy provocation, but so much of it is dead-on. It's all dead-on, really.
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-03-07 20:01 [#01102888]
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the ones on there that i've always thought were overrated shit are paul's boutique and Bitches Brew, and i like Davis, but bitches brew is pretty much him blowing himself and his ego
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pacman
from looeyshmiel (United States) on 2004-03-07 20:20 [#01102897]
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eh. bitches brew is a great album, the complete session is even better.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-03-07 21:14 [#01102936]
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what a crappy list.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-03-07 21:20 [#01102944]
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dead on, really. especially about the roots and bitches brew.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-08 03:12 [#01103098]
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that was bullshit.
I have Things Fall Apart, and that's a great album.
I have The W, and while it's not the best wu-tang album, it isn't bad.. but to say that Iron Flag isn't worth buying?! that's the second best album from Wu!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-08 05:42 [#01103182]
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its "dead-on" because every "witty observation" is a painfully obvious joke.
i can see what he was trying to do. i just think it was poorly executed.
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ymenard
on 2004-03-08 08:49 [#01103365]
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Yes this was one of the worst execution of a good idea EVAR. Anyway in that list, the average (stupid) music listener won't know 75% of them.
It's just some pseudo "hey look you're 3733+ so I'll write an article telling YOU what I think your album suxors".
I own all these :
#1 The Clash - Combat Rock (WTF Classic "last album from group")
#2 U2 - The Joshua Tree #3 Nirvana - Nevermind #5 The Beatles - Let It Be (WTF again) #8 Lou Reed - Transformer #9 Miles Davis - Bitches Brew (The guy is on drugs)_ #12 Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti (hmm I'll agree on that)
#13 Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements
#14 Oasis - What's the Story, Morning Glory? #17 Pearl Jam - Vs. #19 Beck - Midnite Vultures #24 Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine #25 Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (why his hate of all BBoys?)
#26 U2 - Zooropa #30 White Stripes - White Blood Cells (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) #31 Chemical Bothers - Dig Your Own Hole #32 Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin (Teh perfect album!) #34 Dave Brubeck - Time Out (I would agree with him on that)
#35 Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty #37 John Coltrane - Giant Steps (ok his drugs again hit hard)
#41 Pulp Fiction - Original Soundtrack (He has a point here)
#50 Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas #51 Radiohead - I Might be Wrong: Live Recordings/Built To Spill - Live
#52 Mogwai - Come On Die Young #64 Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (!!!!!!!!!!!) #65 Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling Towards Ecstasy, Surfacing (Shit he asked to pick one or the other, I keep both dammit eh)
#69 U2 - War #74 The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band (Says it almost killed rock, wtf what was rock before that?)
#78 Cat Stevens - Footsteps in the Dark #80 R.E.M. - Out of Time #87 Madonna - The Immaculate Collection #91 Sublime - Self-titled #96 Beastie Boys - Check Your Head/Ill Communication #97 The Doors - The Best of the Doors
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