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aquinas
on 2004-02-24 19:20 [#01087997]
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Now, lets discuss B12 - Electro Soma [WARPCD9]. Details can be found here
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aquinas
on 2004-02-24 19:20 [#01087998]
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My second favourite Artificial Intelligence release (besides Incunabula).. totally funky, a little bit of ambient, and very very techno. It's what braindance is all about, imo. Brilliant release.
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onecaseman
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-02-24 22:46 [#01088125]
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I need to buy this. I've never head it, but heard so much about it.
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uviol
from United States on 2004-02-24 23:32 [#01088141]
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I want this one really bad but I have not been able to track it down.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-02-24 23:58 [#01088160]
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it's listed on amazon. do a search for *b12 electro soma* on google and the first few results seem to say they have it. not sure that they actually do though, but it's worth a shot
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-02-25 09:53 [#01088687]
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What I don't like about B12 in general is that they wrap their tracks around a 4/4 beat most of the time. Not just the time signature, but 4-on the floor 909 kicks. The CD does start off with 'Soundtrack of Space', which is just synth strings and pads. Nothing spectacular.
My fave track here is 'Static Emotion', which seems to be a shorter alternative version of 'Basic Emotion'. It's also the shortest track. I like 'Debris', 'Bio Dimension' and 'Basic Emotion' also. Most of the songs on this CD have bits and pieces that are brilliant, but then the house beat comes along.
I suppose 'Basic Emotion' is the most famous track from this CD. It reminds a little about 'Infinite Lites' from their follow up CD.
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-25 16:47 [#01089288]
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Ahh Electro-soma, this is such a great album ,i would go as far as saying a classic album ,
I bought this second hand on vinyl for £8 a long time ago , i will try and post the nice album artwork .
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-25 17:01 [#01089298]
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sorry about pic quality.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-02-25 17:45 [#01089337]
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There is nothing wrong with the use of the 909! You are right, most if not all B12 (and aliases) material uses that as a basis. But...that's because B12 are Techno. That's how Techno sounded back in the late 80's and early 90's. Don't associtae B12 with...you know the likes of AE or something. Very few of their songs could be considered anything but Techno. At the time the press regarded them as a very futuristic sounding Detroit Techno. I dunno, as I have said many times, there is NOTHING wrong with a good beat in a song. All this blarg about a song not being "listening" oriented or something is annoying.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-02-25 17:48 [#01089339]
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Btw - Awesome release. This is some of the best sounding Techno around. 'Metropolis' and 'Obsessed' are my favorites. I suggest tracking down all their old releases on their very own B12 label and even some scattered stuff on ART. The Vinyls are enxt to impossible to get your hands on, so I would just use slsk...unless you get really lucky.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-02-26 08:28 [#01090117]
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You're right, there's nothing wrong with the 909. I just get the feeling, when hearing all the great synthwork, that they could've gone much further. Some of the tracks sound very much like Juan Atkins (Model 500), but Atkins just has that less is more approach when it comes to synths and IMO it just comes out as better tracks.
But yeah, you're right, this is an old release.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-26 10:58 [#01090337]
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Prior to 1995, it was illegal not to use a 909...
Anyways, I got this when it first appeared and I must admit I wasn't overly impressed...workmanlike is one way of putting it...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-06 17:54 [#01135170]
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I had to write somewhere about this, my all time favourite album. I bought it when it came out sometime in 1993 as it was part of Warp's peerless A.I. series, put it on and then began the rest of my listening life. To say it is immaculate is an understatement. It is breathtaking in it's scope; sleek, human, mechanical, futuristic, nostalgic, spacey and earthbound. Some say they are Detroit copyists, for me they fulfill all the promise of Detroit that other "genuine" acts fell at the final hurdle attempting to achieve, or were not aware were possible. I still listen regularly to this album, and all the Redcell and early B12 stuff i can find on slsk, to this day, over ten years on. Only one more album followed this, which was more of the same, pristine electronica. I am so sad they stopped producing more music, and at the same time, kind of glad that their legacy remains untarnished. This was the future I am still hoping to see.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-04-07 14:36 [#01136386]
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Nice post. I agree, I feel that B12 are the best Techno group (Techno in it's pure form) ever. Right now, I have all their songs playing in Winamp that weren't on their Warp releases. It's sad to know that they don't make music anymore (unless they do, and no one knows?), but like you said it's also a relief to know that they can't mess up with any future releases. Amazing how they progressed the Detroit sound, and only a few picked up on them. Listen to some interview questions on Prelude Part 1. No one wanted to give them a record deal back then because Techno seemed to be dead, hence they started B12 label.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-07 15:10 [#01136459]
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I don't blame them throwing in the towel, if that's what they did. I was lucky enough to pick up "Prelude pt. 1" in a second hand shop, again i would give away most of my collection before parting with this. I wish they would bring out a nice release collecting their old 12"s. I found a track the other day on slsk, from a Warp compilation, "Infosphere", and i was so happy to hear a something i hadn't heard before from them. I do rave about them a bit much but that's only because i don't think they get the credit they deserve.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-07 15:32 [#01136521]
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so i should probably check this one out ?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-07 15:36 [#01136533]
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Please do. Anything by B12 or their other alias Redcell is just lush, lush electronica at its finest. You cannot go wrong sir.
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RedSky
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-04-30 11:53 [#01168340]
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I've had Time Tourists on CD for ages, and I just picked up Electro Soma off of bleep.com...
Let me just say WOW. This album is so good it's sick. The Detroit influence is huge, of course. But in my book that's a good thing.
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nacmat
on 2004-08-30 09:06 [#01318128]
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ivo just sent me this... great release, thanks mate... please email me
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-08-30 13:01 [#01318324]
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enjoy man!!!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-30 13:16 [#01318338]
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you people make it sound like im missin out big time..
must get my hands on!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-08-30 13:18 [#01318339]
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well, thats teh fucked, seems like noones sharing it on soulseek
or its just me of course, i keep getting very pour search results
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-08-30 13:37 [#01318351]
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you are
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-08-30 19:11 [#01318746]
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I'll contact you when I get my stash of B12 mp3s on slsk.
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