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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 11:48 [#01084296]
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starting now i'm going to try to write only non-4/4 songs as long as i possibly can. i think if everyone started doing the same thing it would cause mass hysteria and chaos and merit the words "totally awesome".
salutation D: if you have 56k
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-02-22 12:04 [#01084326]
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its a good idea, but excluding a time signature is pretty silly and doesn't make for better music......
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-22 12:11 [#01084343]
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Yeah whatever, good track tho
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GIR
from Easton on 2004-02-22 12:13 [#01084348]
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i love 4/4, its perfect if used wisely.
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tlink
from sofla (United States) on 2004-02-22 12:15 [#01084353]
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19/16
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-02-22 12:22 [#01084362]
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very nice track, the melodies were great, altho at parts the song was a big shrill so i had to turn it down a bit. all in all great track tho. and yes, down with 4/4 indeed! all my recent songs have also been really weird time sigs (mostly mixing like a 5/4 melody with two drum tracks, one 7/8 and one 9/8 or silly things like that)
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 13:53 [#01084454]
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i just got an idea. all the musicians here should make non 4/4 songs and put them in this thread. then we should hound phobes to make it a vibes.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:04 [#01084470]
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working on 11/4 and 17/4 time songs.........
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:05 [#01084472]
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9/8 can be a sick drum loop when repeated correctly for a mass amount of times.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:08 [#01084475]
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i'm much better at making polyrhythms....like 4/4s overlapping each other or 3/4s or 5/4s...
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:09 [#01084477]
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that'd be crazy, but do-able..!..
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:09 [#01084478]
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slightly off from 5/4
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:11 [#01084480]
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ziggomatic: YOU SUCK
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-22 14:13 [#01084481]
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:P
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 14:15 [#01084486]
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mmm salted meat byproducts.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-22 14:29 [#01084511]
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hey don't forget the mustard!!
you creamed corn head.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:50 [#01084562]
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nothing wrong with 4/4...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:58 [#01084587]
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using non 4/4 rhythms is a cop out... you're basically saying "Ok, so I can't be creative in any other way, so I'm going to do the easy thing and use a fucked up time signature, and then everyone will think I'm hardcore!"...
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 15:20 [#01084638]
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kinda like those bands tool and dream theater that realized they have no talent whatsoever and have to resort to non-4/4 time signatures?
that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-02-22 15:28 [#01084649]
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5/4, no?
this is nice. my favorite track of yours is in 5/4 as well.
the whole time signature thing is a bit cliche though. (this isn't directed at you kochlear) if you can use non 4/4 (or even 3/4 or 5/4) and make it work then go for it. i just think when people fuss over it it's silly.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-22 15:37 [#01084664]
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i usually change the time sig if I just feel like it. Sometimes I feel stuck in 4/4 and I want to break out a bit.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-22 15:40 [#01084673]
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I've never created a track which isn't 4/4 and probably wouldn't know how too.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-22 15:43 [#01084679]
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I like your melodies Kochlear. Big thumbs up 4 your melodies. You use easy and emotive melodies. I hope this track will be better than your last track 'cause although it had a strong melody it became quite repetative and certain elements were OTT.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-22 15:45 [#01084682]
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Your best track Kochlear and one of the best tracks on the board for a long while. Good job Kochlear I luv this track. Great job! Been around BOC's place recently. ;-)
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 17:09 [#01084874]
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i don't quite understand what you mean by "Been around BOC's place recently", but thanks for the compliments guys.
also 5/4 is my favorite time signature ever. i just love the way it flows.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-22 17:24 [#01084914]
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this music felt like 4/4 to me... what beat is it? I mean it keeps the same tempo, and the base-notes are all the same all the time. And they sortof set the tempo, don't they?
good track anyway.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-22 17:24 [#01084915]
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the basenotes are all the same all the time
= the keep the same rhythm. And they are very 4/4 structured.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 18:03 [#01084955]
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each bar is 5 beats long. try counting along with it, the song goes 1-2-3-4-5 1-2-3-4-5.
it's really impossible for me to explain it in text, sorry.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-22 18:06 [#01084960]
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ah.. maybe what I'm thinking about is just that it's a very structered song in x/4 (where x is not 4, but 5).
Writing unstructured (non-tempo) songs should be your next challenge! non-tempo = there is no beat, just sounds (or keys) floating into eachother. It's like nature.
Wild and unorganized. So it's hard, to recreate...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-22 18:09 [#01084962]
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I mean feelings seem to be built through repetition (even if music is just repetitive in the way that it e.g. has a x/4 beat - or any other structure that can be found).
Any person who make music digitally therefor limits himself right from the begining by the number of bits or whatever they're called. So true unstructured music can only be analogue.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-22 18:10 [#01084964]
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so much saying in one post, sorry I must be confusing you. Anyway, on topic, good track (like I told you earlier).
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-02-22 18:20 [#01084975]
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no i get what you mean. i think you're thinking of shifting time signature. where, instead of doing any time signature but keeping it the same the whole song, you keep changing the number of beats before something loops. the only band i know of who has successfully pulled this off is dream theater though.
and your concept of doing a non-tempo song is intriguing, but tons of people have already done that. i actually would be bored not only making that, but listening to it as well. i'll do stuff without beats occasionally, but it will still have a recognizable tempo.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 21:04 [#01085055]
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I liked the song though...
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