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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 01:35 [#01083851]
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For those who still doubt that EP7 is the ep corresponding to LP5 (and not to Confield), here are some facts that may convince you :
1) both are entitled "Format+Number" 2) both have to editions : one pretty classic and one in a frosted jewel case : black for LP5 and white for EP7
3) both have a hidden track : at the end for LP5 and before track 1 for EP7
4) both have 11 tracks (+one) 5) both have same type of bleep sounds 6) both CDs have hardly nothing printed on them
If you see others similitudes, let me know. For instance there's reality a sentence at the end of "Melve" on LP5, i wonder if there is one on EP7, etc...
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 01:43 [#01083855]
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they are both by autechre they were both released on warp
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2004-02-22 01:48 [#01083857]
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I read somewhere (probably on this site) that ep7 is just a collection of tracks that didnt make the cut onto LP5.
Besides, who would dispute this? They've always released Album/sub album ever since Incunabula/Bass Cadet...
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 01:50 [#01083859]
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what can we expect as draft's sub-album? or was the gescom ep that?
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 01:53 [#01083862]
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I meant "some similitudes that don't correspond to other autechre albums" =)
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 01:54 [#01083863]
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sorry i could not resist :)
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 01:54 [#01083864]
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Confield have no ep. Gantz Graf is the ep of Draft 7:30 (just see the style of the letters on both releases, and also the sound !).
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 01:57 [#01083865]
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gantz graf is the ep for confield, the reason for the delay was the work on the dvd
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2004-02-22 02:00 [#01083866]
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yeah, and still that's not right. Gantz Graf was finished even before they'd finished Confield. They only had to struggle with that dvd thing before they could release it.
And those similarities between EP7 and LP5 are pretty obvious, yet stupid: look at that second. The 'normal jewelcase' is just a reprint as the original was out of print. and the fifth, 'the same type of bleeps'..... >> are you kidding me??
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 02:04 [#01083867]
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I think gantz graf is closer to draft
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 02:04 [#01083868]
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No it's linked to draft 7:30. If you have all Autechre albums, compare the artworks, the types of letters on them, etc...
you'll se that gantz graf is linked to draft7:30
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2004-02-22 02:06 [#01083869]
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i think it's pretty stand-alone... i can't compare gantz graf with any other release... it's .... different.
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 02:07 [#01083870]
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Compare the CDs : http://xltronic.com/disco/release.php?release=159 and http://xltronic.com/disco/release.php?release=922 There is no hesitation.
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 02:12 [#01083871]
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that nicely links into my theory that the companion pieces are hints as to where the next album will go.
as for the design that obviously links it to draft but that owes more to the timeframe of the release of gantz graf
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-22 02:16 [#01083874]
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artwork is often times completed only after the finished recording is handed to the label and mastered (unless the artist designed it themselves, as they did NOT on gantz graf). artwork and sound have nothing to do with anything.
this topic isnt really even worth debaing, considering its well known that ep7 and lp5 go together, i mean... DUH!
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 02:17 [#01083876]
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oh what a can of worms i've opened :P
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-22 02:18 [#01083877]
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and of course anvil vapre/garbage goes with tri rep, perhaps peel sess 1 & chiastic goes with envane & cichlisuite, ep7 & peel sess 2 go with lp5, blah blah...
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 02:24 [#01083880]
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of course, but i have met people on slsk that thought EP7 was linked to Confield so i wanted to make things clear...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-22 02:29 [#01083881]
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all they have to do is go to warp and look at the release order.
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 02:48 [#01083886]
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yes in my opinion too eps are where autechre test their new directions for new album
(excluding bass cadet maybe abd some other)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 02:57 [#01083895]
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I don't think Gantz Graf was connected to Draft...if anything it is the final/first few tracks of Confield. Erronous' comments would make perfect sense to me about the timing. Draft went towards a more crunchy analogue sound which was nowhere to be seen on Gantz.
But I dunno if there are any really concious links made by Sean and Rob between the EP's and the albums anyway. I just think they are a reflextion of their taste at that time. And given the massive shift they have made in sound over time, it is more apparent than it would be with other artists.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2004-02-22 03:33 [#01083915]
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Gantz Graf is definatly the ep for Confield.. Like i said earlier, the trend has been to release album THEN ep for that album. Beisdes, the crispness of the sound is much closer to confield then the saturated mono feeling of Draft...
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 03:51 [#01083926]
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INCUNABULA BASS CADET -ep after incunabula ANTI EP - before amber AMBER GARBAGE - after amber ANVIL VAPRE - before tri repetae PEEL SESSION VOL.1 - recorded before tri repetae TRI REPETAE ENVANE - before chiastic CHIASTIC SLIDE CICHLISUITE - after chiastic LP5 EP7 -after lp5 or before confield?? PEEL SESSION VOL.2 - before confield CONFIELD GANTZ GRAF - before or after album? DRAFT 7.30
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 03:52 [#01083927]
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Does it really matter? It's just music :)
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 04:04 [#01083941]
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INCUNABULA -nov 93 BASS CADET - april 94 ANTI EP -october 94 AMBER -nov 94 GARBAGE - 27 feb 95 ANVIL VAPRE - 2 oct 95 PEEL SESSION VOL.1 - 13 oct 95 (released 99) TRI REPETAE -nov 95 ENVANE - jan 97 CHIASTIC SLIDE -feb 97 CICHLISUITE - august 97 LP5 - 98 EP7 - jun 99 PEEL SESSION VOL.2 - 9 september 99 (released 01) CONFIELD - april 01 GANTZ GRAF - august 2002 DRAFT 7.30 - april 03
dates taken from:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030603164954/www.autechre.nu/d iscography.shtml
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 04:05 [#01083942]
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jesus... after all my effort
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-02-22 04:10 [#01083947]
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And you don't even take the release dates from the xltronic discography, tsss tsss tsss :P
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-02-22 04:11 [#01083948]
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haha...I am sure some people will really appreciate it :D
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nacmat
on 2004-02-22 04:16 [#01083950]
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there were some inexact dates
as: amber: 0/0/94
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 04:19 [#01083952]
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Gantz Graf is linked to Draft 7:30 obviously. =Þ
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-22 04:20 [#01083953]
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that was the secret day. if you rewind just before 01/01/04 it's hiding there
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-22 06:27 [#01084080]
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LOL =)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-02-22 21:18 [#01085059]
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it's impossible... you can't subtract letters!
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maphive
from 3% step and 54foot-slide on 2004-02-22 21:28 [#01085062]
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ep7 > lp5
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-02-23 00:51 [#01085109]
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Can't forget this one:
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optimus prime
on 2004-02-23 00:55 [#01085110]
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i like the bits where they sound like radiators and dishwashers playing broken video games.
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eric_hard_jams
on 2004-02-24 13:47 [#01087530]
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this thread inspired me to listen to lp5, ep7 & confield, i'm now of the opinion that they are a trilogy.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-02-24 16:28 [#01087796]
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every autechre release soundsd like a natural progression of it's predecessor
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-24 16:44 [#01087817]
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-02-24 16:47 [#01087819]
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Why is the record on the cieling?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-02-24 17:15 [#01087837]
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They might not be doing the EP album sequence as much now. Perhaps they didn't have as many extra tracks lying around after Confield and Draft. Both albums sound like they took a lot of Meticulous work, more so than earlier releases. Gantz Graf sounds like a standalone to me. It is similar in the respect that it shows where they are at as musicians but the approach is completely unique imo.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-02-24 17:19 [#01087844]
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Gantz Graf is more of a maxi-single than an EP though really.
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