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don't get me wrong. i enjoy a bit of d+b when im out as much as the next (wo)man.. but i really don't even contemplate buying d+b releases these days. i bought a few of the 'seminal' albums a few years ago.. but not any more. i think the reason is that, by+large, artist-driven drum+bass albums are largely disappointing. they seem to feature one or two tunes you might have heard in a club sandwiched between a lot of filler. the producer's artistic intentions sometimes seem to exceed their abilities + it just cant sustain interest beyond a few listens. there are a few exceptions to this, of course.. but even they dont have unlimited appeal. the other problem i find is that the shops are full of d+b mix albums. most have the same tunes on. and its mainly all contemporary stuff with the same old 'classics' throw on. hardly inspires you to keep paying good money for them. in the end, what you really want are the tunes YOU like. but, as i dont dj anymore+i sold my decks in lieu of when im old+rich+can afford technics, im not going to trawl through the records shops week after week buying 12"s + white labels. does anyone else see what i mean? i just think the drum+bass 'community' seems to sell itself short through overexposure: for instance, EVERY weekend here in th uk youre garuanteed to find the same d+b djs playing up+down the country. im not saying i want a situation where you have to wait years to see your favourite djs play.. but maybe familiarity does breed contempt after a while..? same faces, same tracks, week in, week out.. and not a truly innovated artist-led album in too long. |
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i+ can't understand + much of:that\\ |
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you totally right .... today^s produced dnb has a small range.... it all goes the same way, there is no more characterful shit.. sometimes i ask me if that is dnb ... (i mostly miss the BASS) it just goes compressed. the most stuff i heard in the last times sounds like died jungle. |
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simple drum and bass shits me immensly drill and bass (sqpsher/vsnares) I think has a lot more integrity and more brilliance to it, I'd buy a good drill record anyday |
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i can enjoy some dark uptempo drumm n bass, but i too only bought like 10 d'n'b albums...it all sounds too much alike for my likings, and somehow i never was into it. i got quite some albums to check few days ago, i gave it a rapid listen and it sounded quite excellent actually, tho it's more a music to listen to in a club imo. i wonder what i'll think of all those albums cuz some of it sounded quite nasty. |
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I have always thought this. The drum and bass peeps release killer 12's but they rarely feature on albums they release which tend to be a collection of tracks they seem to think will make a good album. I know this is controversial but I think by and large the innovation in the scene died a while ago, and it is just futile treading at the moment. None of the new stuff sounds radically different to the stuff being released between 94-97. Personally the only two drum and bass albums that I still really love are Dom & Roland - Industry and Kemet Crew - Champion Jungle Sound. You are right about the mix CD's as well. One thing that really annoys me is the renaming of old tracks, or the name of the mix, to make them look new on the track listing. It has happened quite a few times with stuff I have bought. It's a pity because I have been into the d'n'b scene since it first started. |
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Yes, I have far more DnB 12" singles and EPs than albums. Only got 1 dnb album come to think of it. Roni size has the right idea (vinyl version of the last album was as 3/4 * A/AA 2 tracks). |
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that roni size reprazent - new forms still sounds excellent to me- the whole album, im not sure if it's drum n bass tho... |
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btw.: me -> demegy come down and enjoy the night ;) |
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that's some wacky advertising idea,... very original, most of those types of events have flyer that try to look hardcore and just look ugly and stupid |
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New Form the 2CD version is OK. Good in parts. In The Mode was shit beyond belief. Any after that I haven't bothered listening to. The album they released on XL wasn't that good either. |
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refund, we do some hardcore/speedcore/noizeshit, we are also one of the very rare orgs who booked hellfish and i:gor for the first time in switzerland. nobody really organise a breakcore event here ... |
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yeah i hear ya on this one. the plus point of drum & bass is that cute girls love it so drum & bass nights are excellent plus dancing to drum&bass is fun coz its so easy. not like real dancing more like moshing maybe, well not quite but different if ya dig me. i don't listen to drum&bass at home tho coz its boring as fuck. after enjoying drillnbass, drum n bass just leaves me cold |
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i rrememberr saying this quite a while ago, and people werren't happy. seems attitudes have changed a little. so yes acrid milk hall i agrree with you. |
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and don't care about the flyerdesign ;) you haven't seen the others flyers who are going around ;) |
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there's a few similar set ups here, "prohibited projects" holds illeagal breakcore parties in abandoned warehouses and in the bush and stuff, they're awesome |
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cool, i can imagine that much interesting parties are going on there ... switzerland is a bit lame in that way... full of house and trance heads and parties .. |
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people here only listen to commercial rock or bad new metal, which for some reason they call "industrial" |
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drum and bass rawks. You cant listen to IDM before a big night. And club music for me sucks ass, so it HAS to be a bit of Dj Hype. Ah bliss. |
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*b-b-b-bump* |
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What are you bumping this for? Everyone agreed with you and everything was pretty much covered :D |
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Speaking of this, i went to homelands last year and the drum and bass tent was the biggest piece of shit then music was crap and i can better Dj better than half of those "professional" Djs man it was so shit. I have no problem d'n'b but half of the stuff the mainstream dj's plays is utter wank. No black sun empire, spy technologies and eastside and those are the labels that are putting out the good stuff. Mind you i haven't checked out moving shadow for a while. |
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was actually a mis-post.. but as its here now, anyone who missed you first time can take the opportunity to agree with me now. :) |
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Speaking of this, i went to homelands last year and the drum and bass tent was the biggest piece of shit then music was crap and i can better Dj better than half of those "professional" Djs man it was so shit. I have no problem d'n'b but half of the stuff the mainstream dj's plays is utter wank. No black sun empire, spy technologies and eastside and those are the labels that are putting out the good stuff. Mind you i haven't checked out moving shadow for a while. |
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Oh wank sorry about that! |
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this thread's just going to pieces now.. mis-posts, double posts, disclaimers.. *sigh* where did it all go wrong? :) |
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When i came in i think. |
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haha.. don't be so hard on yourself. |
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I love DnB, especially the HOSPITAL LABEL, yeah but DnB can get boring very fast |
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i went to 'technicality' by introspective records the other night, from what id heard it was the 'intelligent' more 'advanced' drum n bass.... i was hoping it would be better than it turned out... it was ok , nothing special, just lots of drum variation, not even soundmurderer style, but more acoustic drums like a load of unfinished unwanted SQP tracks |
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It's a habit but i will try. |
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for me its not even really an issue of experimentalism or progression. some of the 'straight'/'pure' drum+bass tunes pack the most punch.. its just that none of the producers seem to be capable of producing enough to fill an lp. and then of course, theres the fact that tunes are played out 12-18 months before they even make it onto commercially available vinyl.. then they give them a full cd release + shoot a video another 6months later : by which stage, the cracks in the tune have started to show + just as national radio is fawning over this 'innovative' new track, everyone that actually goes to d&b nights is sick of it. [see: bodyrock | shake it/shake ur body | carolina carol bela] |
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I like: photek - modus operandi 4hero - two pages/ creating paterns goldie - timeless/ saturn returnz roni size - new forms |
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ever heard peshay's | miles from home? |
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Ring of Saturn was much better than Saturn Returnz |
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saturnz return was actually pretty poor, in my opinion. i can see what goldie was trying to do. i just don't think it hits the mark. |
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the problem with drum and bass music is that it all sounds like drum and bass music. |
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yes have it too |
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anybody knows this?: uptight 30.CD.Sly´n Mo.joint venture |
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Initially I was really really disappointed with it, but as time has gone on there are tracks that I do really like on it. The mother disc is a throwaway from me, but disk 2 has a few decent moments on it. It has become more of a nostalgia disc for me though as I got it during a strange part of my life and it takes me back every time I hear it. |
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I've never really liked D&B, i think i've got three albums in my collection, I find it really dull; going to D&B parties is fun for one hour, then i've had enough of it, it's all the same to me |
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drum n bass is fun at parties, but wouldnt be arsed to listen to it at home |
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That's the way I feel about it these days. |
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boom...chsh..........boom..chsh repeat. add a wwaahhhh waaahhhh bass line. swallow pill... shake dont stir |
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I hate the boring tech step stuff...it was good when it came out, but it is just plain boring now. |
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azatoth233 | yeah, definitely. the majority of d&b i own is vinyls from when i used to dj. its fun for a night out, but it doesnt really work for me for home listening. princo | you sound dangerously like someone's parent in your last post. :) ps. no pills for me thanks. help yourself though. ecnadniarb | there was a period a while ago when a lot of d&b which relied heavily of 4/4 rhythms was being played out. pretty dark stuff. is this what you class as tech-step? |
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