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for some reason I've been a bit curious on englands first female prime minister, apparantly she stirred up a lot of trouble in england before and during her term as prime minister, and I thought that rather than looking up a documentary site or something, I'd try get some first hand info from some of the uk people, so tell me,.. what the hell did she do? |
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Fuck the working man over. |
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please explain, did she cause trouble in the lower classes or something? |
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The unions were taking the piss with their demands and the country was pretty much fucked up by strikes. She responded by utterly destroying the mining communities. |
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what did she do? she was doing nothing |
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Ask Jonesy on Monday :) |
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that union strike thing was called the winter of discontent or something wasn't it? |
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Yes, that was when it got really bad and the country nearly fell apart- rubbish wasn't taken away, electricity was sporadic, stores would often run low on certain things. |
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Sus laws were also introduced which caused the residents of Toxteth, Liverpool to riot, and Maggie sent Gunboats up the Mersey. :P |
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interesting.......... |
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gunboats up the mercy? what is a mercy, and why were gunboats going up it? |
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Mersey is the river Liverpool is built on...Toxteth is about 2 to 3 miles inland so I don't quite see what she thought it would acheive. The Sus laws were that the police could operate an indescriminate stop and search policy without probable cause for concern. The black youth population of Toxteth were being unfairly targeted and as a result the riots occured, with residents of every ethnic group protesting. During the riots people died, including one elderly black male who had a tear gas canister fired into his stomach by the police (which should never have happened because the canister should have been fired upwards to drop into the crowd). |
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I've heard some people argue that she did some good stuff too though,.. |
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They were probably rich people. |
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haha right |
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SHE TURNED ALL COAL INTO PLASTICINE, AND DID A CARTWHEEL! |
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I want to fuck her up the arse! |
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I want to thatch her hole! |
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IT ALL COMES OUT WHEN YOU ARE DRUNK DOESNT IT FUNKMASTER YOU DIRTY SHIT |
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I'm completely sober... |
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Thatcher was like Reagan in a dress... Possibly one of the few politicians I've had any amount of HATRED for... Or as the great Morrissey put it... "The Kind people have a wonderful dream, Margeret on the Gullotine, Cause people like you, make me so old inside, When will you DIE?, When will you DIE? When will you DIE!!!!... And kind people, do not shelter this dream, MAKE IT REAL!!, make the dream real...." |
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she has to have been better then Canada's only female prime minister Kim Campbell... |
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Has Kim declared War on the working classes?... Has Kim shown extreme glee at the sinking of a foreign ship? The Belgrano...(which was sailing away from the Falklands at the time...).. |
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Yep, it is funny how it is conveniently forgotten that the Falklands was as much a war of need as the current Iraq war. |
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... She made me ashamed of being english....(and do most of the general public here...).. hehe....I'm in a good mood this morrning... |
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she was terrible. the list of things she fucked up goes on & on & on.. i think it says a lot that london, bristol, liverpool & other major cities all had major riots during the early 1980s under thatcher's rule. that sort of thing doesnt generally happen in britain, certainly not on that scale. she caused a lot of public discontent. engineered the economic situation which led to the early 90s recession. her decisions whilst in power changed a lot of peoples lives irreversibly for the worse & the legacy of her mistakes still haunts the country now. and even worse, she shows no remorse. |
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She was matey with Pinochet too wasn't she? |
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yes |
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the description I got was that she tried to make england more of a socialist place, and got rid of some public welfare schemes in an attempt to force the lazy welfare bludgers to work, survival of the fittest kind of thing, |
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that was a big part of it, yes. |
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only it was less fittest.. and more richest. a lot of men in their mid-thirties to forties employed in manual labour were made redundant under thatchers rule. they never found work again. i went to school with some guys whose fathers were in this situation. it did not make for a comfortable lifestyle. by the time these made had made themselves employable again, they were seen as too old to reenter the workplace. if they were lucky enough to have a pension.. they had to make it last a looooong time. |
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More socialist? Well, only in the way that fascism claims to be "pragmatic socialism"... One of her catchphrases was, "There is no such thing as society" ie- You should be out for yourself. Her ideology of survival of the fittest is flawed (and I'm a conservative!), the idea of "game theory" is a more workable method of conservative policy. Acrid: Yep, I go to university in a mining community destroyed by Thatcher, it's amazing how the effects were so long lasting. I don't understand why they don't work down the industrial estate (one/two train stations away depending on which end of town you're from). |
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made redundant? as in they got sacked or something? the work dissappeared? |
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hardly an intellectual debate on the level we're experiencing.. but amusing nonetheless. check qwerty155's typo. not read beyond the first page.. click here |
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i cant forgive that selfish, everyone for themselves attitude. its just a way of trampling those who are less priviledged. |
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At the other end of the spectrum, an overly "inclusive" society holds back the most intelligent, hard working and useful. :) |
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yes. definitely. but i never said anything about only operating in extremes, did i? like most things in life, it ends up being a grey area. with no absolute solution. either we are a society, or we arent. unfortunately for some, its all about compromise. but certainly not about supressing anyone : be they 'useful' or (if youre talking in those terms) 'useless'.. though im sure a lot of the people who bore the brunt of thatchers time in office wouldnt be too happy at being deemed useless. |
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bitch, grrade a. |
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Agreed. |
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yay! we agree. right, now that i feel all warm + harmonized inside, im off for a bit. laters. |
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Me too, off for a quick nap. I was up late working on tracks last night and I've been doing coursework all day today and it has cuaght up with me :) |
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happy napping :) |
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i can't nap |
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The wanted a shop to stop selling communist and socialist books, hence she is hitler. |
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I heard somwhere that she wanted to nuke argentina or something . is that true ??? |
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It was pretty weird as naps go. I had a dream where I was on the run from the police becauce a mate grabbed a record out of my record bag and threw it up in the air and it nearly hit a truck. We found an entirely different record (some unreleased D-styles battle record) and put that in my bag instead then just as we were about to get into my car we heard police sirens and drove off at speed. Then when I woke up I could hear some Jazz my parents were listening to on the radio downstairs playing over the top of an illbient track of my own on loop and I was thinking (before I properly woke up); there's no jazz in this piece! How did I do the brass that well in Reason?! |
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finally some sense! |
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i love that whole dream/conciousness crossover bleed.. its such a headfuck sometimes. ive been having some pretty vivid dreams recently, now you mention it. |
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there was only ever 2 people who wanted the euro tunnel, mrs thatch and napoleon. napolean was a crazy power mad fascist dictator with one arm, mrs thatch on the other hand had both arms |
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