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I've only recorded a tiny bit (2 guitar tracks) so far in Cool Edit pro with my Ozone, but I noticed lots of latency towards the middle through the end of the recording. Can anyone tell me which settings to change (and what to change them to) so that there wont be any latency? I need as close to zero latency as possible, as I do not understand how I can record properly if nothing happens when it is supposed to. Thanks in advance! :) |
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Also, is there any way to check in Windows whether the USB ports are running at 1.0 or 2.0 speed? My motherboard is supposed to be 2.0, but it seems that this could also be the culprit... |
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I just checked the device manager to get info about my USB.. and for each of them there is a "Bandwidth Used" percentage... is it possible that since I have 4 USB devices plugged in now, they are sharing the total bandwidth 4 ways? If that's the case, then I'll unplug everything that isn't absolutely necessary when recording.. |
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this is a total guess, but i would have thought that having 4 USB devices would in fact share the bandwidth over the four devices.....i would suggest unplugging stuff you don't need, restarting Windows, and then defragging just to make sure. to be honest when doing anything with music under Windows i wouldn't even have something running in the background in the system tray - Windows doesn't manage memory very well... it could be a memory problem, how much RAM do you have, and what percentage of system resources do you have available when running Cool Edit? |
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yeah that happens to me sometimes too. what i do is find that track that is lagging and delete tiny bit after tiny bit of silence from the beginning of the waveform, nudging the track back that amount each time until the both parts play exactly simultaneously like it was intended. or sometimes i just leave it that way and it makes it weird sounding. |
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Latency shouldn't be a problem when you are recording audio. Normally if their is a bandwidth problem crackle and pops and general distortion occurs. What exactly do you mean when you are using the word latency? |
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I've got 512mb dual channel DDR ram.. I'll try closing as many things as I can and unplugging the unneeded USB devices. |
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Towards the end of the track, the timing is just noticeably way off between the syncing of the two tracks... Moreso than I know is possible for me to have fucked up (I stay on time pretty well). |
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Are there gaps in the audio? (we are still talking about audio recording through the ozone aren't we?) I just can't understand what you mean...you are saying that is gradually goes out of sync until it is noticable at the end, or it is out of sync throughout the whole track? |
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512 DDR should be fine for recording.....what version of Windows are you running? if it's 2k / XP they are a bit more memory hungry, but it shouldn't be your memory. just out of curiosity, is your Cool Edit a copy/cracked/cerealed version? i only ask because i've noticed a LOT of applications recently are hiding malicious code inside them and activating it once an illegal cereal or crack is installed |
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i don't see why that would be happening besides all the usb shit being used. it's quite hillarious that i don't get much latency with my computer.. it's like 500 mhz, 128 mb ram etc.. |
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ecnad: Like I said before, it gets out of sync towards the end of the track, but until the middle the syncing is fine.. I recorded some more last night and noticed that it was happening much less, but at times it would still be a little bit off. oscilik: yeah, it's unfortunately a cracked version. That's pretty sneaky (though understandable) of the software companies to be doing that. |
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"That's pretty sneaky (though understandable) of the software companies to be doing that. " If in fact that is the case here... |
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But if the audio isn't gapping then how is it going out of sync? USB doesn't timestretch an audio stream when bandwidth is limited, there would be noticable distortion. |
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yeah i know :( i had a copy of soundforge 5 (i think it was 5) and it'd install fine, and then about 2 weeks later it'd just refuse to exectue.....well, tell a lie, it'd execute, bring up the window and in about 5 milliseconds it'd bomb out. no reason why, no error box or anything. and i've come accross a couple of Mac OS X apps that do the same thing, except a bit more malicious.........i had one that'd fill up my memory and then leak it all and eat up my CPU cycles :( needless to say, i paid for the program lol |
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yeah you're right.....it's digital.........if there was a problem on the actual USB side of it, there would be either distortion or just plain old massive gaps in the audio....it wouldn't 'timestretch' |
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i had a cracked copy of soundforge 6, it worked the first few times i used it then refused to even open, i still use the same copy, i just reinstall it everytime it messes up :z |
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hey!!!!!!! FISH!!!!!!!!! i got my broadband!!! i'm on yahoo too.........add me takenocolor |
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lol sorted |
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i couldn't put up with that shit man.........fucking installing it over and over again....there'd be a big fist shaped hole in my display if I had to keep doing that |
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haha, same here... lee: I admit I don't fully understand how this all works. I have been practicing music for 5 years but I'm new to the aspects of recording.. so I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you about the gaps and whatnot. |
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they should just make it so a dialogue box comes up saying "we know you obtained this software illegally, you may continue to use it, but from now on the performance of it will be 300% shittier. if you were to actually purchase this program it would work extremely better" that way, people wouldn't just think that the program sucks ass and never actually buy it. |
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lol, yeah....some of them do that....but a lot of them don't :( |
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you are completely right.. |
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Ok, I'm recording with my synth now and there are some cracks in the recording... What should I change the Play/Record Buffer, Preview Buffer, and Wave cache to, if anything? The P/R Buffer is currently at 2 seconds, using 10 buffers. The Preview buffer is at minimum size 250ns The wave cache is set to 8192Kb, and there is an option to Use System's Cache. Thanks guys. |
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also, are these clicks and pops in the actual recording, or just a result of being played back via a USB soundcard? like, if I switch back to my soundblaster will they still be there? |
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another thing.. when using the metronome, how do you set it so that it only plays during recording and not in playback? Also, I think it's being recorded into the track.. is there someway to fix this or am I just doomed to not be able to use the metronome? |
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ok, I figured out the metronome thing. |
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can someone please tell me what to do to get these fucking clicks and pops out of my recordings? would setting more or less buffers worsen or help this problem? |
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More should get rid of the pops and crackles but increase latency. |
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try the latest sound forge |
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Thanks to both of you, ill test it out |
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what about total buffer time... 2secs as opposed to 4seconds and what not? |
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You shoudn't have to have anywhere near a 2 second buffer. You must be doing something wrong. Are you sure you have read the manual properly and everything? |
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the manual for what, cool edit pro? cuz it's hacked so I don't really have a manual, and in the help file it doesnt specify what value to set it at... so should I set like a 1 second buffer? |
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You've totally lost me with what you are trying to do. Latency should only really be an issue with the MIDI elements of the keyboard. If you are just using the keyboard to record sound into the computer you should be having these problems. I haven't used cool edit pro so I can't speak specifically on that but I would lean more towards it is something to do with a setting on the keyboard or keyboard drivers rather than the software packages. |
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shouldn't be having these problems that was meant to be. |
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did you press the "monitor record" button at the back of the ozone? maybe you need to do that. |
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yes, I had it on record. |
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OK try setting the buffer as high as you can and disable and power management software you have running on your PC and give recording another try. |
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Ok, well I just listened to something I recorded through my soundblaster and speakers as opposed to through my ozone and headphones, and there are like 500 MILLION fucking pops and crackles... whereas before there were like 3... seriously the quality is the shittiest fucking sound I have ever heard. WHAT THE FUCK. |
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I just tried recording with soundforge 7, and in the ozone there were the usual pops but playing it back through my soundblaster there were only a few... so I guess that's progress? |
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ok well soundforge seems to suck completely.. you can't even record on multiple tracks with this program. |
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