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So I mean there are so many different ways to look at it. Lets start with "IDM", first off this is what a lot of people consider the cream of the crop for electronic music, there is ambient, drill, basic, and other versions of IDM that people love to listen to. And same goes with other forms of electronic, like Jungle, Dance, Hard... blah blah blah.. etc. The same goes for a lot of other kinds of music as well - the blues, rock..... Now why is it that a lot of people here cant see beyond electronic music? Im not asking anyone to like what they dont like, but open your eyes a little bit. Dont think that just because someone listens to metal that its MTV friendly, trendy or something for young kids. I thought we were all old enough to make atleast somewhat decent choices. I listen to all sorts of metal, and while most of it im sure no one here will like (well there are a good many members I have talked to about it on occasion who really like death and grind what not) it, I know for a fact that there is a massive world of all sorts of Metal out there, more so than IDM for that matter. And no that doesnt make it better, im just saying. All im saying if dont judge based on what little information you have, saying that it fits in with Limp Bizkit!? WTF? Thats like saying Aphex Twin is like Happy Hardcore. Its just not even in the same ballpark, whole different game. So open your eyes a bit more and dont judge based on something you know nothing about. Maybe youd even come to like different styles of music, not just metal, but other things. I know ive enjoyed a wide range of music because of this. |
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Where did this come from? Did you base it on your own fantasy that somehow most people other than yourself are closed minded? I don't really see many people here criticising other music types, it's just that conversation tends to be electronic music based...which is fair enough given it is an electronic music site :P |
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i don't have problems with meatal music, but WHY can't you appreciate the white stripes??? btw, i bought elephants today, so that complets me white stripes collection :) |
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NO, I it comes from a few years of hanging out here, observing when other members make topics about different styles of music, even myself, Ive made lots of topics over the years about other types of tunes and a good amount of the time people, some people anyway generalize so much it hurts .. it hurts me so!! boohoo. I know but whatever. I know its a electronic board man! But that doesnt mean people have to be only electronic minded 110% of the time does it? And if so, it doesnt mean that people have to be such dicks about it, as if its a conformist club or something. |
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beyond [all different types of] electronic music i see reggae, jazz, some ethnic......... i don't like metal because........don't know why........it's just not that sounds i like....... though one of my friends [for example] likes type-o-negative very much and at the same time think that plaid and autechre are the best groups..... |
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tolstoyed: I dunno, Im just being a dick about it, but atleast I know the difference between them and lets say.... Nickleback or some super radio band. And I dont generalize them. |
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Well, .. me im WAY more into Metal and all its various forms, and a little into electronic, although I love many IDM artists and ambient and stuff... See Type-O-Negative is a very.... well I dunno how to put it, radio friendly group? Very soft black metal... well I wouldnt even say Black Metal.. but they are a pretty decent band, I dont own anything by them, and probably never will, but they are pretty OK. |
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This comes from the thread about his t-shirt. I just don't think electronic musicians need to use names like 'dying fetus' and 'grotesque impalement' to sell records. I guess this is bias but it makes me not even interested in the genre, as if it is trying to explain its emotions (one emotion, it seems) with words rather than convey them in the music. |
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I think the phrase you're searching for is "power ballads" |
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DRAGON SODOMIZER |
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btw, i think this mb is extremly open minded towards different music...actually i was really surprised when i joined couple of years ago to see this variety of styles being discussed here. take techno (rave) scene for instance, they don't ever! mention anything that doesn't fit into their genre. |
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Xanatos:.. hahah!! see. you dont know what your talking about, because it has NOTHING to do with selling records. There are a million groups I could name off the top of my head that have far worse band/song titles.. right now. And it has nothing to do with selling anything. There are lots of death groups that have normal, and not "scary" lyrics, names or song titles. And they do just as well. It really isnt like you think it is. And names like that .. well I enjoy them. I think its cool. Atleast some people in the music world dont act like pussies all the time. Its just strange that people would think that its used to sell things???? WTF? |
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type-o-negative it's just an exemple........ |
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those names are just part of their scene imo. electronica artists use silly names as well, don't you think? how is aphex twin or squarepusher any different to dying fetus? it's all down to music for me... |
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_user: yeah I know.. I know.. i was just saying.. nothing wrong there. Xanatos again... if it were to try and sell records then it would have to appeal to people that would be shocked or disgusted by this all, and obviously you dont know the people behind all this great music. But thats ok. |
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i mean i don't like that type of music so i don't know names [though i think i can listen to it if there will not be any alternative] |
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Well your shirt still sucks. |
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tolstoyed: awsome point dude, i was going to say something along those lines too.... AE and Aphex Twin and sooooo many others use strange names that dont make any sense, its all the same thing, its just part of the music.. its what comes along with it. andyeah there are exceptions... but not many obviously. If you cant look past electronic..... |
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"i think this mb is extremely open minded towards different music..." exactly! |
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I agree, I take back what I said about the purpose being selling records. I also admit I don't know much about the genre, but I can tell you what makes me (and probably other people) closed minded to it. It just feels like more shock than substance, especially in the words. If I wanted to convey the emotion of ripping flesh from a babies face or whatever it is that is the goal I wouldn't name my album 'baby mutilation' and my songs named 'eating the baby's flesh', 'fucking its corpse' etc. which seem to be the labels of the t-shirts of the metalheads I see. I guess part of my snobbery is that it seems like it is a whole genre devoted to one message while other forms of music can contain many more ideas. I admit I am closed minded -- not that I wouldn't give it a listen, I would -- just that these are the kinds of things I think when I see that t-shirt, although I guess that comment belongs in the other thread. |
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tallyho: that may be true, but not all the time.... there are times when it seems as if some people here are quick to generalize... often. If it were open all the time I wouldnt get flak for listening to Death Metal, or there wouldnt be such stupid comments made about it. |
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Xanatos: see.. thats better! .... It isnt about sellin' records.. so you know. But... thats just what comes with it, and if people dont like it, then thats all good! Really it is.. its like how ambient people usually have titles about stuff like Fjords, clouds, stars.. and warm stuff, and blah blah blah, etc. They also have all sorts of other titles too, just like Death Metal doesnt all have to be about DEAD STUFF AND FUCKING DEAD STUFF... trust me, take it from one who knows. The whole genre, is dedicated to so many different messages, most of them in the end are just about doing what you want, being open minded and other stuff... there is lots of stuff about dead shit, and jesus and other religious stuff, but its just like how some electro stuff is really just about having weird names and titles and strange pics and movies and stuff, same difference. |
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btw, venetians snares is presenting that same image as well, i think, not as extreme i guess as he doesn't use much lyrics, but the track titles, the covers... anyway, i know what you mean, cuz i used to feel the same...but now i can easilly accept the whole thing is just part of their image... |
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BUT... its not part of all death metals image.. just some.. or probably most from what youve seen. I dunno...... i like that sort of stuff too though.. i like all that crazy shit ..... and I like all this crazy electro shit too.. so... I dunno where this goes.. |
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Reflex: fair enough. Tolstoyed: point taken. although vsnares doesn't always go from that angle. Mostly with making orange things. |
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i like music. my friends listen to a lot of metal. i like some of it. let's all hold hands. |
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I think people have a wide appreciation for music here... my thing is that it sometimes seems some people are afraid to like popular music... which you're kind of alluding to REFLEX, buy saying certain bands are too "radio-friendly" and whatnot... so what? Look at the music, is it good? If so, listen to it... if you just downright hate it, then fine... but it can be popular and still good... |
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Type O Negative are excelent, probably the ony 'metal' band i like. |
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