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Autechre - Draft 7.30 [WARPLP111]
 

offline aquinas on 2004-01-29 06:45 [#01053249]
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Now, lets discuss Autechre - Draft 7.30 [WARPLP111]. Details
can be found here

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offline aquinas on 2004-01-29 06:50 [#01053255]
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Well fuck. I accidentally made this thead because I'm
stupid.

But since it's here..

I think Draft is one of Ae's tightest albums so far. Besides
LP5, I think this one is my favourite as far as full-lengths
go. There are so many images that this album conjures up.
P.:NTIL sounds like a futuristic film-noir burlesque house,
VL AL is like a dark, grungy public bathroom at a subway
station, and Reniform Puls is just glorious. I don't think
there's a track on this album that I don't like. Draft works
perfectly as a whole, but each track holds its own as a
separate journey as well.


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2004-01-29 06:59 [#01053269]
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i dont enjoy the first and final track but i'm keen on
everything else. my fav. tracks are IV... Surripere and V
Proc

my fav. albums by them are Envane, Gantz and this one
ofcoarse. i honestly haven't been listening to their other
releases in quite sometime now.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-29 07:01 [#01053272]
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Neither envane nor gantz graf are albums. What are you, some
kind of idiot? You have a lot of explaining to do.


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2004-01-29 07:04 [#01053277]
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if it has more than one song i consider anything an album
sorry to dissapoint you *goes crying to his room from low
self esteem*


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-29 12:01 [#01053551]
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I find it incomplete and bare and sketchy sounding. maybe
that was on purpose, but I don't like some of the tracks
because of this.
I like Confield a lot more.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-29 12:03 [#01053553]
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i never could get into confield but draft 7.30 grabbed me in
my special parts straight away. i don't really listen to
either of them much lately though.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-29 12:08 [#01053559]
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If you listen to confield, autechre have uploaded blueprints
for draft 7.30 in your head. This means that even though you
may well not enjoy confield on your first listen, you will
have the schematics for draft 7.30 inside you so it will
seem natural to you. The confield schematics can also be
used to access confield but it is more difficult. It takes
longer.


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2004-01-30 17:09 [#01055393]
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this is oretty much the album i was waiting for. the only
mistake on it is surripere. great track on first listens,
but is now a regular 'skipper'.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-01-30 17:11 [#01055397]
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autechre...meh


 

offline nacmat on 2007-02-14 12:52 [#02050107]
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gold


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-02-14 13:33 [#02050138]
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so you're the culprit behind cx


 

offline datautel from hardcore (Russia) on 2007-02-14 17:45 [#02050223]
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last track is brilliant


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-02-15 17:30 [#02050808]
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Autechre are great for bringing sound sculpture type
experimental music and post-industrial type stuff to the
'electronica' scene. It is a hybrid that really works, for
the most part. My only criticism is that they have drifted
away from some of the lush melodic leads and harmonies they
used to use a lot more in favor of hamonic elements that are
more subdued and abstract. I like those too, but wouldn't
mind some of those classic melodies worked in a little bit
here and there.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-02-15 17:41 [#02050816]
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you fucking fuck. fuck you you fuck. fucker.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-02-15 17:45 [#02050817]
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:)


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-02-15 17:57 [#02050822]
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i look at this album as a more mature and developed version
of the direction they took on Confield. I also consider it
the best autechre album. Chiastic slide and tri repeate are
historically important albums for me but i always can find a
time to listen to draft.
imagine my horror when i heard the followup :( . It think it
has a lot of variation and extremely interesting sound
design. Like a lot of people in here though i think the
best theoretical AE album would result in an LP length of
Gantz graf with more songs to make a full disc


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-02-15 18:42 [#02050827]
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Well here is the deal with Untilted you have to keep in mind
while listening to it. It is an album made using hardware
rigs rather than a computer platform. From what I have
heard they used all drum machines, hardware synths and
sequencers, modular systems etc to make this CD. You can
hear that when you listen to it, but I can see how someone
who didn't know or isn't used to that sound might raise an
eyebrow at it. It reminds me a lot of Not Breathing, who
also uses a lot of hardware rigs and actually does a sort of
'improv' real time sequence triggering.


 

offline NewSkoolScience from Outer Bongolia on 2007-03-10 09:01 [#02060607]
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I don't think that's actually correct.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2007-03-10 09:03 [#02060608]
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it's good


 

offline cx from Norway on 2007-03-10 09:07 [#02060609]
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it has a lot of good moments


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-11 03:09 [#02060767]
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Gonna get the vinyl next month at my local record fair.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2007-03-11 04:19 [#02060785]
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Some tracks drive me crazy, fuking great album.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-11 09:24 [#02060842]
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either this or Confield is their "harshest" album in my
mind.
but i still like both. v-proc is my fav plus.


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offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-17 12:36 [#02063296]
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hehe, great album, bought it about 3 hours ago.

thing is: does anyone know if the vinyl has been pressed
slightly faster than any other versions? it's most probably
my turntable being shit but it sounds better this way lol.


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-03-17 12:39 [#02063297]
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"Well here is the deal with Untilted you have to keep in
mind
while listening to it. It is an album made using hardware
rigs rather than a computer platform. From what I have
heard they used all drum machines, hardware synths and
sequencers, modular systems etc to make this CD"

I have kept this in mind many times while listening to
Untilted, and to be perfectly honest id rather them not try
to imitate the Draft or confield sound with Elektron
machinedrums Nord Leads and Monomachines.

The live show recordings from 2005 are a perfect example
of how to make great music with the equipment you mention.
The actual album Untilted is an example of not-so-good music
you can make with the same equipment.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-17 12:44 [#02063301]
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I bloody love Untilted I do.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2007-03-17 13:04 [#02063305]
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Untilted was most likely Autechre's reaction to several
things: Anuslord, a distanced interpretation of people's
relationship with both tools and process, how these tools
determine artistry, and how this influences the plethora of
Sunday-morning bedroom producers that saturate and dumbdown
the electronic music scene in general.

Imagine the grafitti kid who try's to one-up his peers by
doing a mural in ball-point pen. It's kitsch and serves no
purpose other than feebly attempting to prove a point.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-17 14:08 [#02063318]
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you';tre ovwer-imterpretinhg it. calm down. itsonly music.


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-03-17 14:18 [#02063319]
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gl0tch i dont think bedroom producers
can saturate and dumb down the scene
i think theyre just doing what they do &
im glad they are because some of them
are very talented. but word gets around
whos reliably talented and will make the
best records, plus people know that the
big names are always gonna do well. i
just like the variety because it helps to
learn as much possible about the music.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-03-17 14:34 [#02063321]
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you're so good at being wrong


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-03-17 14:35 [#02063322]
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untilted is hardly a different thing than their live set.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2007-03-17 14:37 [#02063324]
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compared to confield it's like a damn pop album


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-17 14:50 [#02063326]
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I wish I was Autechre, not because of the talent I'd have at
my disposal, and the knowledge and committment to put
together interesting and innovative works of art. No, I'd
like to be Autechre because of the awesome fans they have.
I'd like to find my inbox overflowing on a daily basis with
hopeful young men sending me their thesis dealing with some
idea of "cracking the code" of the last album, or telling me
what influenced it or what it was a reaction against. Then
I'd like them to revere me as a god, and send me bits of kit
in the mail and CD-Rs of their own work which sounds like
what a deaf person would make if you wrote down what someone
else told you what their friend thought of Untilted as they
skipped through the first few Flourescent Grey tracks he
labeled Autechre in a desperate bid for attention, I mean to
say, Situationist prank.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2007-03-17 14:50 [#02063327]
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hahaha, you couldnt be further off the mark.


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-03-17 14:54 [#02063328]
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"untilted is hardly a different thing than their live set."

huh? what live set have you heard? the one im listening to
sounds at least 80% different from the album. It has almost
a constant tempo the whole time and very dancey in
comparison to any of the tracks on untilted.


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-03-17 14:56 [#02063329]
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dog_belch,

you spelled fluorescent wrong


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-17 14:57 [#02063330]
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It's because I hate him, I don't want to give him any more
publicity.


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2007-03-17 15:04 [#02063333]
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dogbelch you like draft?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-17 15:10 [#02063334]
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Sorry, I know this is a thread for "Draft" and not for my
pet peeves.

I do like Draft, I like pretty much everything by Autechre.
I'm sorry if that upsets anyone. I used to hark back always
to Incunabula and Amber, even Tri-Repetae, but I learned to
love them all, for their foibles, ambition, atmosphere, for
not resting on their laurals, and that the music is good.

For me it took an appreciation of "Untitled" to be able to
go back and appreciate more Draft and Confield. So, I
don't know. Well done Ae, you really are good at whatever it
is you do.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-18 02:12 [#02063470]
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Untilted is what really got me into Ae so I'll always love
it for that.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-03-18 03:12 [#02063474]
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That's great, but this is the Draft 7.30 thread, NOT the
Untilted thread.

Any messages NOT related to this particular
release
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offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-18 03:55 [#02063480]
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ok, ok, BTW Draft sounds great at 45.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-03-18 04:18 [#02063483]
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I enjoy Draft quite a bit. While Confield still remains my
top choice, this could easily be my second. Surripere jams
so hard when it starts to get sliced up... can't get enough
of it.


 

offline johnny_b_good from phoenix (United States) on 2007-03-18 20:33 [#02063766]
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I have listened to AE for a long time.....
I dont think they come out with a great full lenght album
since confield.......
track or 2 here and there are good but not the whole thing

I feel like they have been dumbing it down...anybody feel
the same way??


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-18 20:50 [#02063770]
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i dont think theyve been dumbing it down. its changed
radically, but , even on a song-to-song basis it changes
radically


 

offline johnny_b_good from phoenix (United States) on 2007-03-18 21:07 [#02063772]
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i guess dumbing it down is a bad statement for what i
ment.....I think the music has gotten more basic
sounding....I felt over the years it was getting more
complex and irratic untill it reached a peak at
confield...then started to sound more basic


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-18 21:31 [#02063776]
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i guess if youre considering just the sequencing and not the
dimeanor of the CD's , then untilted for example may seem
more basic than confield. it's still completely out-there
though...


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-18 21:34 [#02063777]
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i think sim gishel is more 'basic' than nine from amber


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-03-18 23:12 [#02063784]
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half of it is treatments of tracks that appear on untilted
(fermium, lcc, pro radii all appear in the set in some
form), it''s just formatted as a live set rather than a
studio album.


 


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