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offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 12:16 [#01052297]
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Damn! i've got some new speakers (audiopro focus sa-5), and
instead of bass, they make a muddled booming kind of
sound... my room is quite small, but when I moved them to a
bigger room, the bass went away. Anyone know something about
this stuff?


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-28 13:10 [#01052363]
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hehe, you've been ripped off


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-01-28 13:13 [#01052368]
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Put the speakers on spikes.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 13:32 [#01052387]
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got them on spikes.

i've checked the connections and the elements are perfectly
fine. i THINK it is the room-size, but there should be some
way to adjust it.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-01-28 13:34 [#01052395]
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when i lived in the dorms my speakers would really resonate
like crazy to track #2 on only built 4 cuban lynx. i
think that tone just happend to be the exact resonant
frequency of my dorm room.

does it do it with every bass heavy song, or only one
specific frequency?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 13:37 [#01052401]
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well.. when I play my synth, i HAVE noticed specific
rumbling around the low F's when playing bass. But it
rumbles on pretty much of the bass (not all, though). I
think the most resonance probably lies around the F area.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-28 13:39 [#01052404]
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acoustics. its the shape & size of the room.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-01-28 13:39 [#01052406]
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i just played that one track really loud when i got drunk.

that was my fix for the problem.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 13:42 [#01052410]
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but how can i "dampen" it if it is the acoustics? the
speakers have their bass-resonance-hole directed towards the
floor... they have won tests for best sound, including best
deep-bass(for their price-class, of course).


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-01-28 13:59 [#01052439]
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iDunno.

i guess you've tried moving the speakers around to different
places?..

other than that, you could maybe try some of that sound
dampening material... but that'd probably make things
quieter.

maybe tear down a wall. :)

i'm sure there are better solutions, but, i don't know them.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 14:02 [#01052440]
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sound-dampening material? you mean I should cover the inner
walls of my room with the stuff they use in studios?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-01-28 14:05 [#01052444]
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spunk works just as well.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-28 14:06 [#01052446]
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maybe you can cum help me with that?


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-01-29 04:48 [#01053138]
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carpetttttt man


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-29 04:49 [#01053139]
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put carpets under them, you mean?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-29 07:15 [#01053287]
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was that what you meant? or do you mean carpets on the
walls?


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-29 07:24 [#01053296]
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i have B&W DM603 S2's which are large floorstanders
they have 2 bass ports (1 at front, 1 at back) and come
supplied with 2 grades of sponge plugs for the bass ports, 1
is coarse, 1 is fine.

you can run then without any sponge plugs or with either of
the plugs, the former gives the most bass which can be boomy
in a small room. i have a small room and use the fine plugs
which reduce the bass the most.

if you are in a large room and your bass ports are NOT
plugged at all, and you want more bass, try moving the
speakers closer to the wall

also ask yourself the question, are you wanting the correct
level of bass, or an extra bassy sound?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:05 [#01054417]
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sponge plug?


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-30 02:14 [#01054422]
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I hope the "dampening" that was mentioned wasnt meant to
tell you to dampen the speaker, such as with polyfill. cause
that wont solve your problem.

It sounds like the speakers are under powered. or the
reciever/amplifier you have (no offense) isnt the best.

I hate to ask this, because i dont want to make you feel
stupid, but did you check your EQ settings?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:21 [#01054428]
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the reciever is the Yamaha RXV-440. The speakers aren't
overpowered, it is the room which have the wrong dimensions.
It turns out the room is one big box of resonance
appropriate for bass. The problem isn't too much bass, there
is no bass, but LOADS of resonance.


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-30 02:26 [#01054437]
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no, not over powered. UNDER. well you said the bass sounded
muddled. that is generally a sign of a speaker being UNDER
powered.

Is your room not carpeted? if not, you can pull out the
polyfill in the speaker to make the sound less boomy.
polyfill makes the speaker act like its in a bigger box, ie
more bass.

try it. if it doesnt help stick it back in, and i would
exchange them for a speaker thats acoustically matched for a
"hall".


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:29 [#01054439]
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the speakers.

i sent a mail to them, and asked about this. they said that
the rooms dimensions made the bass resonate. it isn't really
muddled, as all the other sounds shine clearly through, it
is more "booming" without actually being bass.

no underpowering, neither. the speakers work from 25w to
220w. The Yamaha delivers 65w on all channels.


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-30 02:32 [#01054442]
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as far as power goes, you are fine. although i like to stick
to the top of the power band personally.

I bet if you pull out the polyfill it'll sound better. maybe
not exactly perfect, but better.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:33 [#01054444]
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where do i find the polyfill?
the speakers have an immensely large bass-hole that goes
from the top, and all the way down to the floor.

what does the polyfill do?


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-30 02:45 [#01054456]
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you will have to unscrew one (or more) of the woofers to get
to it. its nothing more than cotton and polyester.

It trapps bass inside the box and expands it, and the result
is the illusion of more bass, every speaker has it.

For home use, kind of need it so you DONT get the boomy
sound, you'll get a nice tight bass not. but since the
speakers arent agreeing with the location, you might benefit
from removing it.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:46 [#01054459]
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so i'll actually have to open the speakers up?

...

not too sure I want to do that, as I've just bought them,
and the "warranty may be void" if some seal is removed.


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-30 02:49 [#01054463]
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no theres no seal. but if your uncomfortable doing it, dont.
because that will make you nervous, and when your nervous
you start fucking up shit. then you really will be screwed.




 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 02:54 [#01054476]
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yep.

I asked some guy at the store where I bought the speakers
yesterday, but he gave me so many mixed signals. either my
room was too soft, or it was too hard, as I described it.
the problem is that two of the walls are normal
in-the-house-walls, and one is a concrete wall and one is a
"outside" wall harder than the inside-walls, but softer than
the concrete one. the floor and roof are hard (concrete,
probably), but they both have rooms on the other side. He
said I should EITHER put the speakers on something hard, OR
on something soft. I tried putting them on carpets, and
plugging the hole with some towels. I tried hanging carpets
on the walls, and i tried putting a wood-plate (table-plate)
in some of the corners of my room. There was SOME
difference, but not much.

the speakers come with some specially designed spikes, which
also have some rubber-pads they can stand in if you don't
want to damage the floor. I've tried both with and without
the rubber-thingies, but they make no difference.


 

offline Quernstone from Padova (Italy) on 2004-01-30 03:19 [#01054502]
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DM: Read up on the 'death frequency', mad nazi sound terror.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-30 03:40 [#01054514]
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haha! and the "brown note?"


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-30 12:08 [#01055009]
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what happened when you put towels in the bass ports? that's
quite drastic as it effectively completely blocks the port

the sponge plugs that come with mine only partially block
the ports.

i definately suggest you DON'T start taking the drivers out
and removing wadding.


 


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