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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:20 [#01050111]
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I was wondering: does anyone not from holland heard of this?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 19:21 [#01050114]
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you mean the genre?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:22 [#01050115]
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yes
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-26 19:23 [#01050119]
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negative
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:24 [#01050120]
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can you descripe the genre?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 19:28 [#01050130]
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hmm, it's been disussed quite a lot here...it's excellent stuff to listen at a gig, great to get wild to. crazy beats, noise, and as fast as possible...i think this pretty much sums it up.
hmm, on the other hand, im not sure...is gabba and gabber same thing?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 19:29 [#01050133]
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id say gabba+gabber were the same.
i have heard of it.
description.. hmm.. speed is of the essence?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 19:31 [#01050135]
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usually 190bm absolute minimum
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 19:32 [#01050137]
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aphex likes to play some in his sets...pretty mental stuff
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:33 [#01050139]
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what does gabba mean? "gabber" is something like "good friend" in dutch
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 19:41 [#01050155]
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not sure what it means...if anything at all.
anyway if you're up for some "mellow" gabber (not sure if it's gabber at all, i think it could be) check hellfish & producer, great stuff!
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-26 19:42 [#01050158]
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i love hellfish and producer: they use indeed some old gabber, but they really fucked it up
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-26 19:46 [#01050164]
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Gabber is genius if done right... funniest record ever = abba gabba by riot nation. Vsnares borders on gabber sometimes imo.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-26 19:47 [#01050167]
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yeah dude making orange things is awesome if you want the hardest fucking gabber shit ever
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-26 19:55 [#01050173]
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oh yeah man ive listening to a lot of gabber, its great if its done properly like deedspace9mm said.....
anyone heard that song GABBER BITCH? its hilarious.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-01-26 20:08 [#01050182]
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Gabber is awesome stuff. but making orange things is awesome if you want the 2nd hardest fucking gabber shit ever!
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uviol
from United States on 2004-01-26 21:30 [#01050200]
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Gabber is great! kid 606 baybee! and delta9. but mainly 606. holy shit!
overdriven bass drums to the max! Gabber might be a bit mindless but it kicks some major arse. Some artists have done a good job of turning the genre into quite an art though. There's nothing like a complex, perfectly executed rush of double 909 low-end joy.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-27 00:23 [#01050278]
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I did listened to it a lot about 10 years ago, never went to those rave's tho, because I was too young.
for the ones that are interessted in gabber check out the song "Jones & Stephenson - First Rebirth" this song got me into Gabber it is really a good song!
it sounds a bit like fast Orbital :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-01-27 00:26 [#01050280]
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Is there a difference between 'gabba' and 'gabber'?
I know it's pretty much like Making Orange Things, but I haven't heard much else. I heard that it got a bad reputation by being popular with Neo-Nazis in Germany in the early 90's.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-01-27 00:29 [#01050282]
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and is 'ragga' like 'reggae + gabba'?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-27 01:05 [#01050302]
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i've heard some gabber, where all it was was just a fast bass beat for the entire time during an hour long mix set... and i would keep tuning back in to see if any snares had surfaced yet... but no...
but see people say that certain afx and snares is gabber... but they would never just have a bass beat... this confuses me....
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uviol
from United States on 2004-01-27 01:19 [#01050314]
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When folks say VSnares is gabber, I think they mean more like, it's gabber-influenced, or has gabber elements. I say this because I often think the same thing about certain artists who really have other elements instead of making purist gabber .. which believe it or not, *can* get a bit old. VSnares is a good example because he, like kid 606, is also referred to as breakcore, IDM, drill n' bass, glitch, etc. by various folks depending on their own musical taste and background.
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-01-27 02:15 [#01050334]
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gabber is so fucking retarded...coked up speed-heads jumping to that shit....no thanks
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-01-27 02:18 [#01050335]
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ragga is related to dancehall...and it electronic instead of a live band...or something..but its not reggea+gabba...
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-01-27 02:53 [#01050353]
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gabba highlights for me:
* RDJ Sonar 2001 - gets into about 30 mins of gabba bliss after his jungle/breakbeat intro. A killah! Using Whitehouse scream over it is pure genious "GET AWAY FROM ME. STANDBACK.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
* DJ Hellfish sonar2003 - he handed out records and i got one... 2 hours of the best in gabba with great video of him mixing it up. He is damn good.
* Some DJ in a club in dublin played Jimmy Hendrix "Star Spangled banner" over gabba once and i nearly wet myself as it was during anti-war demostrations and it was the perfect anthem to the war-is-hell vibe.
*Russel Hassel ATP03 - fucking mental IDM gabba shit
* VSnares ATP03 - defo some elements of gabba there. The only time i heard his stuff ever - can u believe that? I'm kind of savouring the prospect of grabbing an album one day!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-27 05:25 [#01050441]
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Gabber was unlucky in that it managed to get itself a shitty image aligned with neo nazi's, from what I could see, for nothing more than the whole style of completely shaved heads.
Even the word Gabber is ancient Jewish for Peace, which would be a pretty fucking stupid word to choose for a nazi music movement. I used to listen to the stuff on Mokum and Chrome and a few other lables about 8 years ago.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-27 07:41 [#01050596]
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Gabber is genius if done right... funniest record ever = abba gabba by riot nation. Vsnares borders on gabber sometimes imo.
yeah I agree... I own a lot of gabber (all kinds of styles) but "Abba Gabba" (released on Mokum) is the only gabbber-vinyl I own (sadly)! the rest are CDs of course...
I really agree with that gabber can be awesome when done right, and at the same time when not done right, it can just feel very uninspireing.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-27 07:42 [#01050598]
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Fuck, it's all I used to listen to in the mid nineties on drugs.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-01-27 07:47 [#01050605]
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any of uses heard any uk gabba "Caustic Visions" stuff as recommended by autechre at http://www.toazted.com/download.php?mp3=autechre.mp3
?sounds fucking intriguing!
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 10:00 [#01050737]
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seems that only the dutch know the answer to my question; " gabber" was a culture movement existing in rotterdam and later on it became a hype in the netherlands, about twelf to thirtheen ago. i asked this question to see if foreign people had heard about it back then, the culture stood for " hardcore" " techno" "wearing australian jackets and being bold headed and using a lot of hardcore dope....i guess it's dead now.....gabba is something else but gabba contains indeed a lot of old gabber samples......
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-01-27 11:31 [#01050891]
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What the fuck is with the spelling gabber, It's GABBA and it always has been!
Anyway yes, some of it is good!
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-27 11:43 [#01050910]
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gabba is something else but gabba contains indeed a lot of old gabber samples......
what are you talking about? It's the same thing.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 13:00 [#01051027]
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key secret: if you had read the whole message you would have understand what i was talking about
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-01-27 14:06 [#01051073]
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"Gabber is ancient Jewish for Peace"
could be but it still officially comes from the dutch word gabber which means "buddy" or "mate". In the Netherlands it's mostly violent angsty retarded youths with nazi sympathies who dig this shit that I won't even label music.
"gabber is so fucking retarded...coked up speed-heads jumping
to that shit....no thanks"
true.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-01-27 14:13 [#01051085]
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I hate gabba....most of it is cheesy
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Quino Strider
from Buenaventura on 2004-01-27 16:43 [#01051319]
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Gabber and gabba are the same when it comes to the genre. Gabber is how the Dutch pronounce it. Gabba is how people in the UK or the States named it.
Anyway, it mostly suck. I mean, the real ''gabba'' is usually cheesy stuff build on samples from pop songs. A lot of the Dutch productions are like this. I think gabba range from about 190 to 210 when it comes to the bpm. After that it's pretty much speedcore or terror. What Hellfish and Producer do is awesome, but you can't compare it to the usual gabba stuff. I mean, H & P are above that by far. Check out stuff from Rotterdam Terror Corps, Neophyte or from the Masters Of Hardcore label. It's all fucking retarded what these guys do.
I'm with Monoid. Most of it is cheesy, very cheesy.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-27 17:17 [#01051352]
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and there is also a difference of the gabber that came out in the beginning and the gabber that was released in "the end" it became harder and faster and after thunderdome 14 I quit ;)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 18:21 [#01051395]
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i agree, and i see you really know what gabber was all about: where you from?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-27 18:22 [#01051396]
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thunderdome 12 was for me the end of it ;p
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-28 04:37 [#01051804]
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a guy from up north
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-28 04:41 [#01051807]
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Fuck'em all by DJ Dano(?) was a classic though.
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2004-01-28 05:51 [#01051866]
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Totally agree!
Gabber is so lame... it takes like eum... maybe 5 minutes to make a gabber song
oh wait... I think I can do it in 4min :-)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-01-28 07:35 [#01051964]
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ok I dare you to make a song like Jones & Stephenson - First Rebirth and show us your skills
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-01-28 07:45 [#01051980]
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"Gabber is ancient Jewish for Peace"
woah! jewish is a language?!
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2004-01-28 08:08 [#01052008]
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Jones and Stephenson - First Rebirth, are you serious!?
1. Do you really think that I'm gonna waste my time making a Booooonzzzzaaaiii track?
2. Why Jones & Stephenson, it doesn't even come close to gabber! That's (hard)trance if you ask me!
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ISayNothing
from Mt. Pus (Sweden) on 2004-01-28 08:16 [#01052012]
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"gabba, gabba hey!"? wait..no, that's ramones... i remember some old song on a happy hardcore-record or somthing, named gabba-something(oh, my poor memory.)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-28 09:00 [#01052045]
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Before Hebrew the Jews spoke a form of Greek known as Judeo-Greek, it still exists now.
As for Gabba being easy to make, it falls into the same arguement as dance music...loads of people say it is easy to make but try doing it and it is a different story. Good music of any kind requires talent and a feel for the style.
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Quino Strider
from Buenaventura on 2004-01-28 09:00 [#01052046]
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Can someone please explain the link between gabba and The First Rebirth?
First, it isn't a gabba track and second, it sucks like hell. But all the gabba's love it. Hahaha, those silly asses, thinking it has something to do with gabba.
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snAre
from .oO Ghent Oo. (Belgium) on 2004-01-28 09:15 [#01052062]
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Still searching for that link myself... :-)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-01-28 09:25 [#01052090]
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so none of you gabba or autechre freaks have heard of Caustic Visions - UK gabba as recomended by Ae in that
mp3 interview at http://www.toazted.com/download.php?mp3=autechre.mp3
An intriguing prospect of finding, no? (yes)
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