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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 14:21 [#01048310]
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For my Music Technology class, I have to: "Write several pages on your website about an electronic musician and their specific use of electronics, citing at least 2 sources and including at least one relevant picture"
This oughta be fun. :)
I'm going to talk mainly about how RDJ produces music in many different genres such as classical piano pieces, glitch-ass techno, ambient, etc. Does anyone know a resource that has a list of equipment RDJ has used over the years? I can't use threads from this MB I don't think -- it needs to be a citeable source.
Also, anyone have any cool ideas for site layout/design? We aren't being graded on site design, only content, but this class is my favorite class.... ever, so I figured I'd try to go the extra mile and do something worthy of aphex twin. ;) Thank you in advance. :D
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-01-25 14:36 [#01048332]
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that sounds like a cool-ass assignment. I would look for music magazines to cite from.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 14:43 [#01048342]
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yeah, it's a cool-ass class too! :) Good idea about the mags, I'll look into that right now (hopefully I can find some online articles from Music Tech mag or Electronic Musician Mag) and if not, I can go to some bookstores. :D
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-25 15:01 [#01048367]
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I'm going to the wrong school and studying the wrong shit.
I'd write a 20 page manifesto on why RDJ is the coolest person since Aphex Twin.
at the end, I would blow the lid off the thing by saying they were the same person.
I would get awards and shit for that paper
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-25 15:10 [#01048373]
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fuck aphex, man.. everyone in the world copied him so it's hard to really appreciate his innovativeness, however massive..
do matmos, or something..
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 15:17 [#01048381]
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let me get this straight - you're saying it's his fault people copy his music and that somehow he doesn't deserve credit for it because of it? I'm doing RDJ because there is the most information readily available about him, and to pay homage to him as the reason that I'm into electronica today... sorry, I just don't agree with your reasoning.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-01-25 15:18 [#01048386]
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you should do it on East 17. They created the best beats. and took 15 ectos each.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-01-25 16:00 [#01048430]
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the recent article in the WIRE magazine on APhex, has rdj going on about changing his set up quite frequently ... might be of interest or something
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:23 [#01048460]
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yeah, that's what I've been gathering from the interviews I've been reading... it seems he changes his set up a lot, and now his music is mostly composed with software that he and his friends write... insane.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-25 16:25 [#01048466]
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I'd like to know what languages he uses, whether he writes GUIs etc..
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:32 [#01048481]
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me too.. this comes from an interview:
"With programming, it is quite difficult. In the conventional sense, I love the programs I make. It doesn't involved any sort of interaction- you just put it in, press the button and it goes. That doesn't involved much interaction and that's quite hard to get the balance right. If I'm using a sequencer, I don't find it difficult to use it to get what I want into the music." (http://www.furious.com/perfect/aphextwin.html)
so it seems some/a lot/all (no idea) of what he writes are unlike reason or FL etc because you don't have a lot of control. You just press the button and it makes sounds, and he sequences them from there, I guess.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-25 16:33 [#01048482]
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So he isn't the computer science god some make him out to be. I didn't really imagine richard single-handedly coding his own version of Reason!!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:38 [#01048485]
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still though, he makes his own electronic instruments from "from-scratch" circuit boards! that to me is worth more than a rehashed Reason or fruityloops.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-25 16:38 [#01048487]
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sorry, let me clarify --
it is, of course, in no way "his fault" -- nor does it detract from his genius, etc. -- just that, since he's SO massively influencial, & SO widely imitated, that it's hard for newcomers to perceive what is/was new/novel about his music.. whereas with other, more current artists, there's a lot more room for speculation, inquiry, interesting research.. i guess it just seems like a trite, overdone investigation..
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-25 16:39 [#01048489]
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I don't think you can compare the two. Each has insane complexity at different levels
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:43 [#01048493]
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it may be an overdone investigation, but not really by me as I have learned a lot about him in the past hour I've been researching it. Also, I'm fairly certain that 95% of the people in my class have never heard of Aphex Twin, let alone matmos, or autechre, or whoever. Most of the people in that class are there to fulfill requirements so they can get on with whatever it is they want to do with their lives. Seems I'm the only one who walks in there with a grin every day. ;)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:45 [#01048499]
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I know the complexity is insane, but what I meant is that if he was just going to program another Reason, then he might as well shell out the 300 bucks and just buy it (we all know he can afford it, and if he contacted Propellerhead, they would surely just give it to him for free). A homemade synth/noise generator seems so much more unique - like he wouldn't be wasting his time doing something that has already been done.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:47 [#01048502]
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what I meant by this post is that RDJ will seem very innovative (or just very weird) to the people in that class... it's only not innovative for you because you know so much more in this genre than they will probably care to.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-25 16:50 [#01048510]
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what, do you go to the super-fun-fantast-dream university or something? Sounds like an awesome assignment...
all my assignments are about marketing plans, and research models, blah, blah, vomit, vomit!
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-25 16:52 [#01048514]
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oh I definately agree there
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:52 [#01048516]
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heh, I go to the University of Central Florida, and this class is part of the Digital Media program here... apart from this class though, the classes here are very boring. In fact, this is the only class I've ever had in my educational career that I enjoy going to every day. Not just enjoy, love!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 16:53 [#01048517]
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the classes I have to take* here
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-25 17:19 [#01048561]
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I have been chasing the Aphex rumor mill for a decade. Let me fill you in. Aphex is a liar! I have talked extensively with his room mate. Let me save you the time. He uses various things... trackers, cubase, hardware sequencers, anything really... nothing that no-one else can't get hold of. He has a nice sized studio. Some really good analog synths. The code you're talking about is supercollider version 1.. He also uses CDP (another scientific type audio software) Lot's of people use these programs. They're no secret. There you go! Don't waste your time like I did.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-25 18:03 [#01048602]
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"The code you're talking about is supercollider version 1"
what do you mean? what code?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-25 19:30 [#01048703]
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mostly composed with software that he and his friends write
your rumor. Which is bullshit. I gave you the proof. trust me.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-25 19:59 [#01048714]
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for what i've heard aphex at first created /designed sounds for synths, before making money in the music-bussines as Aphex twin, but that's probably a lie 2. but when it's no lie i'm pretty sure he writes is own software. Have you allready found an equipment list somewhere? I'm curious if there is any..
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-01-25 20:01 [#01048715]
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"fucking"great avatar btw zephyr, can't remember LOL for an avatar.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-25 21:10 [#01048753]
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He doesn't right his own software. He admited it in the supercollider forum. He said he said that for the reporters. He uses everything everyone else does. He does use analog synths..not homemade though...He's got a lot of stuff..a studio
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-25 21:13 [#01048755]
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write
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 00:19 [#01048876]
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do you have a link to the supercollider forum?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-26 06:51 [#01049168]
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the sc2 forum is gone.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-26 07:12 [#01049184]
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Actually, a reason type environment for Supercollider functions would be dreamy.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 10:26 [#01049402]
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well im shit out of ideas then... because I can't seem to find two sources that agree upon anything about him... I think I'll just write more about his style and the end-product sound than what equipment he actually uses.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 10:27 [#01049403]
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that agree about what he does for equipment, I mean.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-26 13:45 [#01049613]
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well, you could bolster the rumors, include the tank rumor. They are very interesting. Helped his persona...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 13:53 [#01049634]
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I know, but I just feel dirty doing that if it's not the truth... so he doesn't actually have a tank then?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-26 14:23 [#01049669]
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exactly write a whole section on how it's hard to tell what he uses because of the number of rumours and RDJ falsities that float around. You can put a 'the guy likes to maintain a mystery around himself' spin on it. It'll be fun! Be sure to show us the end result :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-01-26 14:32 [#01049678]
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thanks for your support man. It probably won't be that great but ill let you guys know how it turns out. (note: I am a crappy web designer).
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