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uzim
on 2004-01-20 15:33 [#01042034]
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...our government sucks so much =/
the phonographic industry (yeah, thanks dear RIAA & co. - can't anyone just fucking BURN them down???) asked for a law project that would end e-mail privacy, force all internet access providers to check and censor all personal websites forums etc. (so they would probably close everything instead, it would be too hard to censor everything)... there would also be filtration that would prevent people in france from visiting some other foreign sites (yeah, right, like in china and some other countries)...
that's just crazy. -_-
an article about it (only one i found in english).
of course, there has been lots of reactions, manifestations and petitions against that, associations formed against this law, boycotts of any product coming from the phonographic industry... more than 100 000 signatures so far on the petition, but the government still ignores it (like they always do, or almost)... i am seriously worried.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-01-20 15:37 [#01042043]
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is it Jaques Chirac's fault?
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2004-01-20 15:38 [#01042044]
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the internet is open source, and should NOT be fucked with.
its all about privacy! man, i dont know what to say. your government or whoever is behind this has no idea.
YOU WILL BE LEFT BEHIND
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-01-20 15:38 [#01042045]
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that's the frrench forr ya
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-20 15:38 [#01042048]
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i am the best
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-01-20 15:38 [#01042049]
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you'rre all the same
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-20 15:39 [#01042053]
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yes
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-20 15:40 [#01042054]
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and i was thinking of moving to france...
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uzim
on 2004-01-20 15:41 [#01042056]
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mostly Nicole Fontaine's fault... (and the phonographic industry of course -_-)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-20 15:41 [#01042057]
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holy christ! will someone please horribly murder the RIAA..... gruesome manhunt death style, RIAA are a bucnh of fuckin wanks.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-20 15:42 [#01042058]
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is it true that they eat chestnut's in France ?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-01-20 15:43 [#01042059]
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no but this it pathetic rreally, it makes me sick.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-20 15:44 [#01042062]
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oh really ?
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uzim
on 2004-01-20 15:44 [#01042063]
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tolstoyed > maybe try to find a better country... at least until a new better government is elected here (which i hope will happen!)
hyakusen > chestnuts? of course yes, don't you? ' _ '
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-20 15:44 [#01042064]
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hyakusen: they let day care out early today? wheres your momma?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-01-20 15:45 [#01042065]
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hey, it might sprread... one day the interrnet will no longerr be what it was.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-20 15:46 [#01042067]
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youre french?! Your english is feckin brilliant
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-01-20 15:49 [#01042070]
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eat chestnut you goosewrecker
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-20 17:50 [#01042162]
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phonographic?
like records?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-01-20 18:01 [#01042182]
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yeah give me the wire and i'll level 3 their asses
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-01-20 18:04 [#01042187]
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Oh, yes, that is quite unnice, although chestnuts taste great.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-01-20 18:06 [#01042190]
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No, there isn't any correlation between the two propositions of this sentence.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-20 18:31 [#01042238]
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PUTAIN! Surely they can't pass this? Si c'est comme ca je me barre
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soon
from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2004-01-20 18:31 [#01042239]
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The entire thing appears illogical to me
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-20 19:05 [#01042269]
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Jesus. It scares me quite how much corporate influence can squish freedom of expression, personal privacy, civil rights...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-20 19:07 [#01042270]
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Fuck it, when this comes to the UK (and it will, already is under certain circumstances *cough*terrorism act*cough*) i am GOING OUT FIREBOMBING.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-01-20 19:08 [#01042272]
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"Jesus. It scares me quite how much corporate influence can squish freedom of expression, personal privacy, civil
rights..."
That was a moving statement. I was reminded of "one very important thought" by boards of canada. The RIAA is odd.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-20 19:14 [#01042277]
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I wouldn't say the RIAA is odd... evil, but not odd. They're very predictable and very logical in their own twisted way. RIAA = The absolute epitome of greed over creativity.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-01-21 02:23 [#01042394]
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who doesn't eat chestnuts :o here they only come in cans :(
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-21 03:56 [#01042491]
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Don't worry, this law won't be voted ; it's just an artifact of french RIAA lobbying the governement. It will most likely be changed to give more power to the justice to convince paedophilians and terrorists.
And don't forget that they are already monitoring what they want. be it legal or not. and this does not only apply to the old France.
I more worried about the status of Islam in France nowadays.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-21 06:32 [#01042590]
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I CREATED THE INTERNET, AND I SAY, WITH MY THUNDERING VOICE: it's all good.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-01-21 07:20 [#01042644]
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get PGP or something and protect everything you do
RSA encryption is pretty hard to crack for those mofo's
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uzim
on 2004-01-21 07:28 [#01042648]
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PGP? RSA encryption? ' _ '
what is it?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-01-21 08:11 [#01042672]
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it's fancy words. people say them when they've got nothing to say.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-21 11:51 [#01042964]
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>:(
this sucks
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uzim
on 2004-01-22 14:10 [#01044439]
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- nothing to do with the internet, but still nazi-style future laws from the government:
bandanas and beards may be forbidden in schools, because -according to them- it could bear a religious signification... -_-
(get me out of this country, please, in a few years we'll be in dictatorship °_°)
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uzim
on 2004-01-22 14:20 [#01044483]
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(i can also remind you that the government also made a law which forbids anyone to disrespect (whistle to, or anything) the french hymn, i don't know how much is the fine but it's ridiculously high)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-22 14:22 [#01044489]
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go Sarko... *cringes*
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uzim
on 2004-01-22 14:25 [#01044496]
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i wish i could move to another country...
easily i mean... =/
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-22 14:33 [#01044529]
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Oh come on it ain't that bad. You haven't lived in england....
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uzim
on 2004-01-22 14:38 [#01044532]
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how is it in england?
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-22 14:48 [#01044538]
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in a word - shit
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yann_g
from now on 2004-01-22 15:15 [#01044559]
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prettu scary indeed. someon should just hack the government's sites and shut them down until they give up. fuckers! raffarin fils de pute ta mère c'est dick cheney enculé de ta sale race.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-01-22 15:19 [#01044564]
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BELGIUM
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-22 15:28 [#01044572]
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Grey Depressing Flat
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uzim
on 2004-01-22 16:19 [#01044615]
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JAroen told me it was fine in the Netherlands...
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uzim
on 2004-04-09 18:35 [#01137160]
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so...
in spite of all the protestations, petitions, associations against it etc., this law passed.... the government doesn't want to hear anyone...
it's fucking terrible +_+
now there might still be hope.. maybe; some people say they gave up on filtrations... some say they don't though, well it's a big mess...
i don't know if the law will be really applied either... and the law (at least part of it) is against european directives, so i still have a little hope. well, i want/need this hope anyway, it all makes me feel so sick. what a bunch of fascists -_-
and still NO ONE talks about it on tv, only mostly french internauts are aware of it..; like it wasn't important.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-04-09 20:30 [#01137305]
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FUCK FUCK FUCK . This is fucking extremely terrible. Some of you may not understand the urgency of this but this WILL (not could, it will) lead to worse things.
And of course,no one cares. People love to be told what to do, they love not having to think, they love fucking love it. They cream their pants knowing that they have people bossing them around, because as much as they moan about it, 70% of the world are tired of trying to fight for their beliefs and equal rights. "I just got home from a long day of work, I don't want to have to worry about anything"
Thats why "Regular" people don't vote, then they bitch all about the government later.
The world is a benevolent place! And anyone who thinks other wise is paranoid/crazy. Man why are people so lazy and why do we let shit like this happen?!?!?! GO READ BOOKS PEOPLE!
I'm glad this stuff like this is going down, have fun watching your grand kids grow up in what will be a third world society. And I'm not just talking about France,
Of course I'm not assuming it's 'All your fault'. If anything conceder all this "Crazyyyyy Talk" my sympathy for you having to endure government censorship and borders on your Freedom of speech.
Taking away someones freedom of speech is just another step towards controlling working class peoples opinions and inevitably controlling the working class. Fucking hurray! Neo Liberalism is working!
Yummm watered down, filtered internet, tastes like AOL ....
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-04-09 20:31 [#01137306]
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*gets kidnapped by government officials*
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uzim
on 2004-04-10 05:56 [#01137498]
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well, i surely do vote.
and i'm even more surely happy that i'm not born ten years after or something like that (i could have been born earlier in fact if wouldn't have bothered me at all -_-), if it continues this, "1984" will happen - maybe in, let's say, 30 years?
....terrible.
it it continues like that i'm tempted to go kill myself - just because i couldn't bear living in such a totalitarian world.
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