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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-16 20:51 [#01037442]
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IDM + House music... possibly actual "dancable" IDM.
This is what I'm going to spin, I have a full set ready to go and will be recording it live in early February and put it up for your enjoyment.
Discuss... artists, tracks, general microhouse theory, haters, lovers, dancing naked, whatever you like
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-16 20:55 [#01037446]
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montreal mere-fouqueurs! j'aime beaucoup akufen, crackhaus, egg, et les autres...
je pense que le nouveau EP de jimmy edgar resemble micro-maison musique... les autres aussi, comme SND... je said que mon francais... qu'est-ce que ca va dire...? "souczorse?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-16 20:58 [#01037447]
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... god damn frenchies... I understand about half of that, I only took a year of French
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-16 20:59 [#01037448]
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But yes, Akufen is amazing, probably my favorite house artist right now... deck the house is an awesome track, trying to get it on vinyl
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-01-16 21:09 [#01037453]
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Check this
Mathew Johnson - Typerope e.p.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-16 21:13 [#01037456]
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i really don't speak french very well at all... but microhouse french with a capital "fra"
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fsk
from london (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-16 21:14 [#01037457]
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jimmy edgar for eva !!!
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disasemble
from United States on 2004-01-16 21:14 [#01037459]
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akufen starts to sound a bit samey to me after awhile, but he's damn good.
though my personal favorite at this moment is sutekh.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-01-16 22:11 [#01037470]
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sutekh is niiiice...
frankly i'm more of a fan of stuff that kind of sound micro-housey... than actual microhouse... jelinek for example
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-17 02:06 [#01037525]
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my picks:
Akufen (esp. my way) Herbert luomo swayzak geez'n'gosh cabanne twerk rechenzentrum
+ compilations micro-funk or click'n'cuts
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-17 03:13 [#01037553]
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Simon Reynolds has "Macrohouse" as one of his predictions for the '04 - slightly tougue in cheek...
(macroHouse being house with just all the obvious, cheesey bits combined...)...
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-17 03:20 [#01037559]
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micro-sampling is more about texturizing the sound. Everything with beats can be produced with click-&-cut style.
See Funkstorung, crunch, quinoline yellow, autechre, prefuse for hip-hop. See above for funky, groovy style but they also do dub/chill-out tracks, see latest devine for his ambient track.
Macro vision of life is for texans.
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alnuit
on 2004-01-17 05:38 [#01037638]
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Would minimal house from Basic Channel be considered microhouse ? I love some of the stuff from there....
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-01-17 05:55 [#01037648]
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No that would be Dub Techno
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-01-17 06:21 [#01037656]
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Yeah Akufen is amazing but listening to a whole album is like eating a bowl of frosting, too rich for my blood. He should try doing some more minimal shit to shake it up.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-01-17 06:24 [#01037657]
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He did, Psychometry e.p. Delgado e.p. with DJ Algorytm, Architecture e.p. etc etc
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-17 07:16 [#01037688]
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micro house is fantastic.
check some ricardo villalobos. also anything on force inc.
force inc released a definitive micro house mix album called "digital disco," followed up with a sequel last year.
some of the stuff released by farben is very micro housey. get some of his stuff.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-01-17 07:19 [#01037691]
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Ha! I'll check that out, thanks. I've only heard his real busy stuff.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2004-01-17 07:39 [#01037705]
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you really need to check out matthew dear. he's one of the hottest up and coming microhouse producers.
link
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-13 00:38 [#01070968]
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deadbeat and the rip off artist would be 2 others who could easily match the micro sample styles of akufen. both had excellent releases on vertical form in 2003. and as far as akufen, i believe hes reworking some stuff based on the concept series from richie hawtin circa mid 90's. should be interesting...
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-13 00:46 [#01070973]
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actually. deadbeat released with stephen beaupre on the onitor label called "its a crackhaus thing" one of the best releases of that genre, in 2003.
both were just in town with akufen and kooky scientist.
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goodhands team
from bloomington (United States) on 2004-02-13 10:38 [#01071576]
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sami koivikki: 'samiakki'
is pretty chill. i fucking hate house. but i like this cd.
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theo himself
from +- on 2004-02-13 11:04 [#01071644]
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define microhouse
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-13 11:36 [#01071724]
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A lot of house elements, solid 4/4 bass drum kicks and sometimes a heavy bass line
The music emphasizes some of the minute details you hear in house, hence the glitches and short vocal samples in some of the more trademark pieces of the genre. Ambient lines, cut up lines of all kinds, and attention to detail over the traditional house lines.
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-13 23:30 [#01072559]
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genres are bullshit anyways. classifying things as this or that only add to the ignorance of people and their musical taste or lack of. someone can say they dont like microhouse simply because they see it as dance music and only want to hear shit that sounds like warp and thats fucking retarded. i hate people with that mentality. anyways. microhouse is far more complex than your traditional house music. i think its far more interesting still, and has more than just dance music appeal.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-14 00:53 [#01072585]
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Genres just help people understand sort of what kind of music they're going to listen to... I think it's widely understood most music doesn't fit snugly into a certain genre and microhouse is definitly no exception. All genres have a taste of other genres, just derivitive with some major parts found in whatever they're trying to emulate.
Microhouse isn't more comlex than house. Now I'm not saying most house is complex, because quite honestly I find most of it really boring and repetitive.
I listen to Akufen for too long and I feel the same thing, it's repetitive and doesn't change a lot.
That's part of house though, people appreciate the groove. Until you've made house that people dance to consistantly.
Most people don't understand musical genres to the extent that the music makers and DJs do so of COURSE they're ignorant about it. They don't care. They want to go to a club and expect a certain type of music so they don't waste their time with something that doesn't get them energized.
Just because you're not "ignorant" of the music styles doesn't put you on a pedestal.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-14 00:54 [#01072586]
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Until you've made music that gets people moving on the dance floor, don't knock it. It's DIFFICULT to get music that consistantly works and even harder to start moving towards a new genre that people don't normally associate with house. (finished that sentence, sorry)
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 01:09 [#01072589]
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im not knocking dance music. and im not trying to put myself on any pedestal. its that very same mentality of others that i cant stand. im specifically pointing out elitist attittudes towards what others perceive as dance music because its not idm, when in essence, alot of the micro type stuff is a greater sibling to idm than actual dance music.
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 01:11 [#01072590]
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whatever. im a fan of way too much music to defend either. give me akufen with autechre anyday. its all solid stuff!!! the point i was making is to look beyond what you already know. explore new labels. dive into other "genres"!!!
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-02-14 01:30 [#01072596]
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No question other people do that and in a sense (whether you intended to or not) you were doing the exact same thing.
When you say microhouse is much more complex then traditional dance music, I just can't agree with that. There is some dance music regularly played that is really well done and interesting if you listen to the production and what's going on. It's complex in a much different way.
In IDM people tend to concentrate more on what's going on the in the music. In dance it's much more about the groove and the production values.
So yeah, I totally agree people are elitist especially when it comes to IDM. Too many people don't like some great dance artists. Personally I think Basement Jaxx is freaking phenomenal, Sasha, Propellerheads, Crystal Method (well, mostly their first album), Juno reactor, Hybrid, and I see a lot of threads about those sorts of people on here with some good, some bad responses. Any genre you pay attention to it happens. I talk to a lot of house heads at clubs who won't listen to anything else.
I see microhouse as a cross genre bringing in IDM aspects into traditional house music. I don't think it's evolved into a great genre yet but if we get a couple really strong artists moving into it we'll see a LOT of popularity. House is one of the few genres (along with Hip Hop) that has withstood a long time and kept coming back really strongly. It's a perfect area for some glitch to start coming up really heavily. We see some in Fat Boy Slim, Basement Jaxx and a lot of other artists just nothing that has been catchy enough to be a top ten quite yet.
It will happen.
I'm actually working on making microhouse because I see it being a very popular area and something that needs a big boost as far as killing the "repetitive" vibe I keep hearing in House. Either with some creative DJing or better production with the tracks. I aim to do both, time will tell if I can pull it off.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 01:35 [#01072600]
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everyone please stop whining about people using classifications to discuss music... everyone knows that music is not truly reducible to any sort of structuralist definitions... as sure as absolutely nothing is reducible to structuralist definitions and language is an arbitrary structure that informs are capacity to "know" and thus no communication is really truly valid by validity's own standards... we suspend disbelief in the name of some futile form of communication because that seems to be our lot as humans... if we want to discuss the differences between microhouse, and click-house, or glitch-techno, we will... and if it bothers you, well just know that it bothers us too... we just can't help ourselves
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 01:36 [#01072601]
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valid=invalid... that missing "in" part is really important
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 08:35 [#01072930]
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I see it being a very popular area and something that needs a big boost as far as killing the "repetitive" vibe I keep hearing in House."
thats a sad excuse to make any music. but whatever. you dont see my point. argument done. good luck with your microhouse stint in cali.
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Poland
from Detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 12:37 [#01073263]
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Microhouse: music for people who spend way too much time on Xltronic.
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Poland
from Detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 12:39 [#01073266]
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Mike, no mention of Matt Dear?
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acidwash
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-14 12:42 [#01073268]
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matt who. lol.
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