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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:47 [#01025731]
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A hypothetical one that is...
If you had to choose between never being able to hear another person's music again (you could still go to places with music, you'd just not hear it) or never make/hear your own stuff ever again, which would it be?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-09 16:48 [#01025733]
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never hear/make my own stuff ever again.
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2004-01-09 16:48 [#01025734]
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definitely never make/hear my own stuff again. i don't take my music seriously at all. i mean, i make it for a laugh, and if it was all the music i could ever hear again i'd go mad in a second :P
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-01-09 16:48 [#01025736]
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Oh, shit.
I don't know.
I'll have to think about it, thank you for ruining my evening.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-01-09 16:48 [#01025738]
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i'd rather hear others. i've been thinking of this in my head from time to time. mainly because i've considering getting a laptop or possibly some new hardware but in the long run i think it may be a waste. i may be better off just buying cds with the money because i enjoy listening to music pretty much all the time.
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Portland
from San Diego (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:49 [#01025739]
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id rather be able to hear music then make it.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:49 [#01025740]
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never listen to others
that way my music would be uninfluenced (well, no more then what it has been already)
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-01-09 16:49 [#01025742]
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I guess I would quit whistling to listen to autechre, and bach and mervin floren's 24 polkas greatest hits.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:49 [#01025743]
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*enter all the jabs, and pretentious comments*
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-09 16:51 [#01025747]
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being influenced is a good thing, though.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:51 [#01025748]
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I don't want to sound bigheaded- and I'm not for a second saying my music is good... but I'd go for hearing my own music. Not so much for playing it back, but I really enjoy making it. It's even better escapism than videogames.
Also, I reckon if you could only hear your own music, you'd start to make some wicked stuff after a few years out of neccessity.
Fun Fact: Elvis claims that he intentionally avoided listening to other people's music so he wouldn't be influenced by them. (I'm not sure at which stage in his career this applied)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:52 [#01025749]
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to an extent.
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Clic
on 2004-01-09 16:54 [#01025750]
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Never hear/make my own stuff ever again.
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-01-09 16:54 [#01025752]
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eh, I was being serious while trying to make a joke, I'd much rather hear other people's, no one person can think up all the different types of sound and structure, they'd be missing out on a lot, it would be like being color blind only worse
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-09 16:54 [#01025754]
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hearing other people's stuff and being influenced by it is just part of the learning process.
most development of own style follows on from emulation.
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Clic
on 2004-01-09 16:56 [#01025757]
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It would just be so fucking boring only listening to my stuff for the rest of my days.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 16:58 [#01025759]
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yes, but at a certain point, Id argue youd have enough influence to find your own voice.
obviously, its not an ideal situation, never hearing other music again... but these are the choices, and Im just saying... I rather listen to my own... because 1. a lack of music would force me to make more diverse music (and in more quantity), to fufill an appitite of varied music, and 2. I love making music. This way, I can write music, and listen to it. Instead of just listening.
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Clic
on 2004-01-09 17:00 [#01025765]
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I would just miss being surprised.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-09 17:00 [#01025766]
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I dont know about this, Im too involved with my 1 band, and even the other one, as well as my own personal tunes to want to say no to it, but I cant say, I guess in the ultimate end id have to say that I would want to never hear my own stuff again, I guess.... ugh
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-09 17:00 [#01025768]
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but there will hardly ever be any surprise left in listening, only in the making process.
which, like Clic says, would make listening to music pretty boring.
I need to hear different perspectives, something outside of myself, or I'd just kind of grind down.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 17:03 [#01025771]
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fair enough
we just differ in our choices.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-09 17:26 [#01025790]
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i'd probably just want to listen to my stuff. I'd really miss listening to other people's music, but i really enjoy making music. i like the feeling of creating something i also really enjoy listening to.
and i like the feeling of accomplishment when i notice my ability improving or as i develop new methods, learn new software and learn to play more instruments.
it's also a good outlet for stress. it calms me, i'm generally happy when i'm composing.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-09 17:33 [#01025794]
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ditto
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handoverthecart
on 2004-01-09 17:44 [#01025803]
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i would rather listen to music.
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staplemouth
on 2004-01-09 17:52 [#01025813]
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id hate to lose either, but i think it would be worse if i couldnt make music anymore.
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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2004-01-09 17:59 [#01025824]
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ditto
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-09 21:13 [#01026045]
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depends on if you'd suddenly forget all the music you've ever listened to already.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-09 23:15 [#01026136]
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Damn that's a tough one!
I would go for "not hear my own music again"... But I might go mad cos it's my only creative outlet... Add to that I work in music anyway and it'd be like cutting off a limb to lose the ability to hear my own music...
Dammit, I'd have to go with "never hear other peoples' music again", not cos I want to, but cos I'd go mad otherwise and would have to find a new career.
It is the best form of escapism too - I'm into videogames too, but I always end up frustrated and often more stressed out than when I started... Especially with F-Zero!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-09 23:27 [#01026139]
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i love my own music, but i'm not a proper composer and there is a far greater variety and volume of music that's made by other people.
i enjoy listening to the finished music much more than the process of making music, which is tedious and time consuming. there are other creative outlets as well.
how could i compare to bach? the master musicians of jajouka? steve reich? boc?
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2004-01-09 23:35 [#01026141]
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i find it quite hard to hear anything since i ate my left ear and sliced my right ear off with an angle grinder.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-01-10 00:34 [#01026180]
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with where i am atm with my music id say 'not to hear my music again'
but if this was a year from now id say 'not to listen to anybody else' because hopefully by then i will have developed as a arstist/musician/whatever to enjoi it properly
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2004-01-10 01:38 [#01026213]
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I have to say I'd rather continue to make it, cause whenever I listen to a CD it always puts me in the mood to start creating new stuff.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-01-10 01:40 [#01026215]
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but what would you do if you couldnt hear the cd how would you create?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-10 01:43 [#01026220]
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you can be REALLY good, but you'll never be as diverse as the rest of the world.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-10 01:47 [#01026222]
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and no matter how much music there is in the world, none of it will feel the same as music you've writen.
we can go back and forth on this all day
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disasemble
from United States on 2004-01-10 01:48 [#01026223]
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exactly. well said. hooray! etc.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-10 01:49 [#01026224]
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NO ! WE CAN'T!
for it is boring.
AND....
(wait for it..)
..Idontevenhaveacomputer.
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disasemble
from United States on 2004-01-10 01:49 [#01026225]
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obviously, depends on the person. such is life eh.
yeah either way really. hard to say. i love listening to music not made by me, and i love making stuff.
but i think its safe to say that this situation will never arise. least i hope not. dont test me!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-10 01:56 [#01026229]
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im just saying, listening to your own music is a different feeling... because you made it... so you have more of a bond with it. Its something you can be proud of.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-01-10 02:01 [#01026239]
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im in full agreement with that but sometimes it can hinder you because you hear every pop, click or whatever you have made and others may not
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-10 02:03 [#01026241]
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yeah, of course.
But it does have its up side
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-01-10 02:04 [#01026243]
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i might have wanted to use grammer in that message :)
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esaruoho
from helsinki (Finland) on 2004-01-10 02:18 [#01026260]
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definitely hear my own stuff.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-10 03:11 [#01026290]
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He he, the nearest to a "Christmas argument" we had this year was when I screamed at F-zero in triumph after finally beating samurai goroh (about the 100th attempt) it made my mum jump and we had a slight row over it.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-10 13:34 [#01026815]
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Haha yeah that one took me a while!
I think I'm stuck on the one just after that now where you're in this impossible race with about 12 other cars and you've got to come first... Been stuck on it for the last month!
I swear that game's just too hardcore sometimes.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-10 18:05 [#01027282]
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Yep- that's the one I'm stuck on... Considering I've played the N64 version to death, I thought it'd be a lot easier than it is.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-01-10 18:16 [#01027294]
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mine of course
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yann_g
from now on 2004-01-10 18:20 [#01027302]
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> being influenced is a good thing, though.
everything you are, you owe it to others, so you better think it's a good thing!
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yann_g
from now on 2004-01-10 18:22 [#01027306]
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> I would just miss being surprised.
same here
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2004-01-10 23:29 [#01027659]
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I like my ideas & creations & soundscapes & "music"...
I am really disappointed in a lot of other peoples work that if I could never hear it again, I think I would be much better off.
Making music is something I cherish. Much more than listening to other peoples form of communication which I can not understand.
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