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"Earth should be priority, not mars." As much as I want to see the colonization of other planets occur within my lifetime, I feel that this is completely true. |
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pantalaimon, what hte fuck are you talking about. am i misreading you (probably) - how does the US account for 20% of the worlds population!?!?! and what about china? they have taken measures to reduce the UNGODLY amount of people they have, but now look at them; communist country that feels like a prison, no? |
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serry |
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"am i misreading you (probably) - how does the US account for 20% of the worlds population!?!?!" yep, i said polution :) |
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it might help if i spelt it right :) Pollution |
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Not content with being the world's only superpower, the USA wants to extend its military might to achieve what it so bashfully calls "Full Spectrum Dominance", which will mean backing up its dominance on earth by building up its weapons in space. Without the help of Darth Vader they're developing the so-called "Star Wars" programme - a series of lasers that will form a protective shield, to shoot missiles out of the sky before they ever reach American soil. This is accompanied by development of a "Nuclear Space Initiative", which would see rockets powered by nuclear generators - this is necessary to power long distance exploration into deepest space and more significantly to provide the enormous power needed to keep their mega laser battle stations orbiting above the Earth. Why is the US so hell-bent on developing a Star Wars programme? Perhaps it has something to do with the people behind Bush. People like Bruce Jackson, vice president of Lockheed Martin, the largest weapons manufacturer and a major contractor in US space military work who claimed "I wrote the Republican Party's foreign policy platform." He claims he hasn't pressed for development of Star Wars "That would be an implicit conflict of interest with my day job." So who did advocate it? Stephen Hadley, a military adviser to Bush Snr, and is a lawyer who represents, er... Lockheed Martin. He claims that "Space is going to be important. It has a great feature in the military." And no doubt important for swelling Lockheed Martin's bank balance and those associated with it, like Lynn Cheney, the wife of US vice-President Dick Cheney, who is a board member of... Lockheed Martin. Last November 160 Nations passed a United Nations resolution called "Prevention Of An Arms Race In Outer Space", with only the US, Israel and Micronesia abstaining. This re-affirmed the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, international law that sets aside outer space for peaceful uses. The US Air Force Space Command in its Almanac 2000 stated "The future of th |
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Bugger! ... The US Air Force Space Command in its Almanac 2000 stated "The future of the Air Force is spac... Globally dominant ? The future Air Force will be better able to monitor and shape world events." |
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"last November 160 Nations passed a United Nations resolution called "Prevention Of An Arms Race In Outer Space", with only the US, Israel and Micronesia abstaining." that doesn't suprise me in the slightest |
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maybe we can use the moon as a big rubbish bin |
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Those goddamned filthy astronauts! |
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micronesia rules!!! |
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"The US Air Force Space Command in its Almanac 2000 stated "The future of the Air Force is spac... Globally dominant ? The future Air Force will be better able to monitor and shape world events." (8-0 And then tell me the conspiracy theorists are total nutbags. Creepy stuff this. Especially since they're so in your face with their NWO statements. |
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tell me about it, have you seen the New 'American' Century document? Scary shit. |
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The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership. |
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Yep, seen it and detested it, what's more scary is that there are even members on this board who are hailing all this shit thinking it's the best for the world. I'm like take your "freedom" and shove it up a smelly dank place were the sun don't shine. |
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and the amount of money they spend on the military is a joke! United States $466.0 billion FY04 actual [see Note 8] China $65 billion 2002 [see Note 1] Russia $50 billion [see Note 6] France $46.5 billion 2000 Japan $40.7 billion FY01 Germany $38.8 billion 2002 United Kingdom $31.7 billion 2002 |
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my friend owns 20 acres of space on the moon. the guy who claims to own the moon actually does - he won it in a court battle. |
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every country monitors and shapes world events obviously, the more powerful the country the more shaping they do, since every decision they make and action they take effects more people |
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this sums up the US pefectly "Superiority Complex" and a dangerous one at that. btw I have nothing against the US people, just its government. |
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i want to live on the moon:o)...imagine trying to make a pot noodle :oS....ull need special space editions...*drools* |
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we need a world defense platform on our sattelite i do believe.., hell as long as poletics never gets involved and everyone amungst its crew (defense part of the crew that is) is only there to protect the earth from cosmic whatever he hell .. i think a moon base would be quite rewarding. |
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According to a UN resolution, the moon cannot be owned by any goverment or organisation, but some american bloke said "I'm an individual, not a govt or org, so I shall own it, and sell it for $10/acre" Some idiots have even bought some moon! There is no real military importance with the moon. Spy satelites and satelite launched weapons platforms are smaller, and can be moved. The moon moves, but not on command, and does not cover 100% of the Earth's surface, but a network of 12 satellites could easily, goldeneye anyone??? As for Mars, please... has he been watching Total Recall too much or something? What about perfecting the space shuttle, or heaven forbid, scrap it and seek a real solution.....perhaps a look at the Soyuz rocket, its old, it works, its lo-tech, its reliable, it doesn't explode as often as the shuttle (=missions/explosions). NASA could do it, if it re-organised itself, pulled its finger out, and was paid a few billion (trillion) dollars, but why not sort out this planet first eh dubya? Third world debt anyone??? |
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"According to a UN resolution, the moon cannot be owned by any goverment or organisation, but some american bloke said "I'm an individual, not a govt or org, so I shall own it, and sell it for $10/acre" Some idiots have even bought some moon! " but then, idiots tend to unlawfully overrule the U.N. resolutions quite easily these days. |
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hello! this is 2004. we americans don't need stupid international treaties telling us what to do. |
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hey, I have a question about the star wars program... if they want to use lasers that can shoot down a missle, going several hundred miles an hour, in the air... what could stop them from using it as a very precise sniper type laser, targeting in, via satilite, anywhere in the world? |
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for a nation which waxes lyrical about democracy and unity, the US seems to abstain from a lot of treaties drawn up by the countries of the world to try to work together in a more peaceful and environmentally sound way (the kind of treaties that will ACTUALLY beneit people, rather than space exploration, exciting though it may be).. instead they seem content to set themselves up as a law unto themselves. free to do whatever they see fit, at the expense of the rest of the world. and THATs how you get to be the world's only super power.. ..by acting like a spoiled child. refusing to co-operate, and forcing your actions on everybody else. ladies and gentlemen, a toast.. to democracy. |
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i like that question. anybody have an answer? |
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theres no question marks in your previous post? so i can't answer anything. |
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THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS TROUT. i hope that helps. |
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he was refering to my question. |
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Bush only wants a base on the moon so nobody can kill him there while he monopolises the worlds oil. |
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i was indeed. |
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The U.S. Space Command's "Vision for 2020" pulls no punches about the intent or purpose of what the Pentagon is developing: "Dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect U.S. interests and investment." **"... to protect U.S. interests and investment."** The Airborne Laser (ABL) system, a "boost phase" component of Theatre Missile Defence (TMD), is envisioned as a high-altitude laser. Its technology dovetails with another project approved last December by the Department of Defense: the Space-Based Laser. **Both eventually will be able not only to intercept missiles, but to attack fixed targets anywhere.** A second space-based laser, the Alpha High-Energy Laser, has already been tested succefully over 20 times. |
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Perfecting the space shuttle? Hardly... The Shuttle will be dispensed with after the ISS is complete, the cost savings being redirected to alternative launch vehicles and the Moon missions. While I'm sure Bush isn't aware of it, the establishment of a moonbase and a subsequent manned mission to Mars are the latest tiny steps in an epic journey lasting thousands of years, the ultimate destination being mankind permamently free of the Solar System and colonizing the universe. Sooner or later humanity will need to leave earth, permanently, and what we do now is the most basic groundwork to make that possible, leaving a legacy of knowledge to pass on to subsequent generations for them to build upon. |
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