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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:17 [#01018336]
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Hey, while I've been away, Mad Cow strikes.....
I've always loved steak and hot dogs and shit, but dear god, "Downer Cows"
Stunners, Mechanical Carcas Stripping, dear christ!
I've been reading up on this for a bit now, read the NY Times article Cattle Industry
and looking at slaughterhouse pics, and I want to vomit. I can handle anything gross you throw at me, but I want to gouge out my eyes.
Google: Cow Slaughter.
------------ I've always hated vegitarians, but I'm thinking of not ever touching beef again......
You have to read up for youself, but I really am repulsed. Veal, and shit.......jeezus!!!!!
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:19 [#01018339]
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dude, beef is good.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:21 [#01018341]
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I think I'll just not read or look at the things you have, and enjoy my juicy, tender, steaks and burgers.
mmm
beef
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:21 [#01018342]
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yeah, read the article.......
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:23 [#01018343]
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hot dogs
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-04 21:24 [#01018344]
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yeah, the the porn industry really isn't doing very good of late!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:25 [#01018345]
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1. yes animals have to die, to be eaten 2. Thats not a very pleasent image to post, especially after I just said I didn't want to see it.
dont force feed me your views
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:25 [#01018347]
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those are pigs and i already hate pork.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:26 [#01018348]
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the thing is, I'm no radical lefty. I love steak, but the things that are STANDARD practice.
how they shoot bolts into the cow before they hang it up by it's feet and slit it's throat to bleed it.
How the spine is ripped out before machines hydrolically strip the carcass.
jeezus, read, or do a google search, I just did, and it turned my steak eating world upside down :(
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:26 [#01018351]
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AUTOMATIC B7
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:27 [#01018352]
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Zues, that's the POINT! That's what I EAT!
I saw hot dogs at the store today, and I usually get two packs, but I was like..........uh...........
That's not gross, that's NORMAL, that's how it's done.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:27 [#01018353]
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that's what's standard of Predators too.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-04 21:28 [#01018354]
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yeah, obviously killing animals and preparing them to be eaten ain't going to be a pretty sight... anyone who thinks so is pretty nieve... so I don't need to look at those pictures, cause I know they're gross... I still enjoy the food!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:28 [#01018355]
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yeah, but the point is, we dont want to see that.
maybe its brutal... but oh well. thats life.
please just dont post more gruesome images. Its not the kind of thing that should be posted on a MB
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:30 [#01018356]
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the way we kill things doesn't make them any less yummy!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-01-04 21:30 [#01018357]
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Vegitarian is such a bad term. I eat more pasta then veggies I would think.
It's not a life of only eating brocolli and carrots you know : )
I just think eating meat is lazy. There are way to many mechanics to it now and that just turns me off. It's not like "Oh from farmer dan to your plate".
It's more like "Killed at this place, ripped appart at all these other places, packaged somewheres else then sold to you at the store! Hurray!"
I don't try to be captain america about the subject or anything but I sometimes wish I was better edjucated on the subject at an earlier age.
Like seriously it's pretty easy unless your an idiot. Take it one step at a time and watch your step : )
I'm not a level 5 vegan or anything but I try harder each day to messure out what I feel is fair or not.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-04 21:30 [#01018358]
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All meateaters should visit the slaughterhouse from which the meat comes from as ofthen as possible.
It's the way it's always been, and always will be.
I don't eat meat though, so I can spend my sundaymornings in bed, recovering from a night of alcohol, and maybe, drunken posting on xlt.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:32 [#01018359]
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ok, I know I've been out of the loop for a number of weeks, but..........don't you guys read the damned papers?
Cows that are disesed and can't walk, are killed and made into food that techincally isn't fit for a dog.
---------- I would react the same way most of you are, until I did the reaserch, just go to google and type in COW SLAUGHTER.
Or go to the AIM website, they talk about all this. How to stun a cow before you "Stick it"
Obviously there will be blood, and humans will always eat meat, me included, but why is it so fucking gross, my meat on the floor with nerve tissue from a machine that ripped apart the carcas.
ugh.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-04 21:34 [#01018362]
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humans will always eat meat.
You make it sound like it's a must. it's not. it's a decision.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:34 [#01018363]
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I'm not a veggie, nor against meat eating, lord knows I don't eat much else, I think I just want to find a store that sells meat from a real farm, not a metal pen.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:35 [#01018365]
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"I would react the same way most of you are, until I did the
reaserch, just go to google and type in COW SLAUGHTER. "
yeah, but the difference is YOU went out to find this info.
we didnt. So dont try to force it on us.
I like meat. that will never change. I was brought up eating it. None of these pictures or stories will change my mind... they will just be unpleasent to read/see.
and so why would I want that?
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:40 [#01018368]
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Come on Zeus, I'm not forcing anything on anyone.
I'm not making any judgments about meat eaters (I EAT BEEF) or any remarks about how beef is evil.
I'm pointing out a NY Times article today that talks about the process, and it's fucking revolting. I don't like the idea of eating meat that went through that, that was fed in those pens, that was possibly not able to stand up.
I want farm fresh, not this mechanical shit, and the scraps of all of it being stuffed into intensitines means I won't be eating hot dogs for a while.
It was NY Times and the mainstream media that brought it up, I agree with them, the procedures are barbaric, and I don't want to eat shit that was torn apart that way.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-01-04 21:40 [#01018369]
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Oh by the way I have loads of friends who work/worked at the local slaughter house and hot dogs worse then you think.
-- Just skip this part if you dont want to know --
When they terminate the animals they usally blood them (most of the time they are hung from a high place). They collect the blood in huge bucket things and save it for the hot dog batch.
There is a huge industrial size blender that they thorw all the left overs in (lips and assholes as we all know lol) and they turn on these huge blanders.
Once everthing is mushed up they add the blood to give it the pink color (because prior to this the blender is seriously filled with a grey mush of lips and assholes)
Funny thing is that all the different hotdog companies that they supply too all come from the same batch! hahaha just more or less blood ! Wahahahaha!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-01-04 21:43 [#01018371]
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It's sort of like that slurm macgenzie episode of futurama huh ? hehehe
Whatever I don't care what people do. You can't change the world, you can only change yourself : )
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optimus prime
on 2004-01-04 21:43 [#01018372]
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you guys i'm so healthy and well-fed from eating meat it's not even funny.
if there were wild animals around here i'd kill them and strip them myself.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-04 21:45 [#01018373]
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I don't get it.
All people should be aware of the consequences of ones actions.
If you pay for meat, you pay for people to kill animals (of course; you should also be aware of how the animals are killed, preferably by visiting a couple of slaughterhouses).
Also on the subject; Every person alive ought to be aware of the consequences of what one decides to eat, just like one will check out what different drugs to you before testing.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:45 [#01018374]
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the main thing that bothered me was posting the picture.
no NSFW warning or anything. something that said "hey, you might not want to see this"
in that way, I feel it was forced.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:48 [#01018376]
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I didn't intend to post a picture orginally, but I hardly believe two dead pigs deserves a NSFW badge.
However, if I offended you Zues, I'd like appologize to you, I did not mean to offend you, and for that I appologize.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:53 [#01018379]
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its ok
im just in a pissy mood
ive been sick for 5 days, puking... so dead pigs isnt really what I want to see right now
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-04 21:58 [#01018383]
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sorry Zeus, didn't mean to make it worse :(
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-04 22:12 [#01018397]
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OMG US BEEF INDUSTRY HI 2 U
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Mr Toady
on 2004-01-04 22:59 [#01018403]
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mmm, blatantecho come to the dark side of vvvveeegetarianisssmmmm (aka the healthy side) :D
i switched 7 months ago, and i have never felt healthier in my entire life. and it really doesnt take much effort, either. after a few weeks, i had no desire to touch a piece of meat ever again. the desire just goes away eventually, and you have more energy, etc... plus, the chances for heart disease and cancer, diabetes, high cholesterol, are all dropped drastically. (and by drastically, i mean in some cases upwards of 98 and 99%). i think its easily one of the biggest choices a person can make in todays society to stay healthy, and its not hard at all.
:D
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-04 23:09 [#01018404]
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Even if you never eat meat again, if you have 2 kids and they each have 2 kids and so forth, the majority of whom eat meat, you're aiding the evil unhealthy path of earth's current ecology exponentially. And even if you don't have any kids, others who share basically the same dna will. Doom2: hell on earth
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mimi
on 2004-01-04 23:26 [#01018408]
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hahah maybe not, unless i am just the non meat eater with the worst diet ever....
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Mr Toady
on 2004-01-04 23:27 [#01018410]
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haha... hm. i agree. basically, this world is fucked eventually. i might as well enjoy my stay health-i-ly. :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-04 23:36 [#01018414]
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I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA
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Mr Toady
on 2004-01-04 23:38 [#01018419]
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o shit *ducks*
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-01-04 23:39 [#01018420]
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WONDERTWIN POWERS ACTIVATE
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-05 04:23 [#01018525]
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at the moment i've just stopped eating red meat (too much can cause cancer) but i'll become a full vegitarian soon now that I know the way the animals are treated.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2004-01-05 04:38 [#01018528]
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In 1000 years if cows are teaming up with floating read brains shooting plasma at humans I'm sure we would kill those fuckers.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-05 04:54 [#01018537]
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hmmm well I dont know the effectiveness of their "looking over only 20'000 cows each yeah" considering the amount of cows in america, this is a drop in the bucked and really it does nothing. strange.
meat is not wrong, its just how its gotten, like big meat farms and slaughterhouses, I mean if it were all like WAYYYY back in the day, thats OK, but not how its being done these days.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2004-01-05 04:58 [#01018539]
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Cows have it great. They spend their whole lives in the nude, eating all the tasty grass they can find, they never have to pay taxes or visit elderly cow relatives or get beaten up by drunk cows...
i wish i was a cow
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-01-05 06:13 [#01018575]
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i just had a beef curry :D
if that disease ever hits australia it wont be australia anymore!
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-05 09:09 [#01018808]
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well said, that's exactly how I feel.
It just doesn't sit right at the moment
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-01-05 09:14 [#01018818]
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I never stopped eating beef when the scare went about over here. The chance were that I would have had it already anyway
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-05 09:17 [#01018823]
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blatantEcho; why thanks, I just dont get it, I mean if they wanted to know how many cows are infected they'd have to inspect them all, not a measly small % of them!
As well, its true that they are mistreated in inhumane conditions, but there has to be a different answer than just "its bad" because there are so many humany on this planet that eat COW that these farms..... well they were made for a reason, we cannot rely on personal farms and such, like in the past. But.... well shit I dont know the answer, but there must be one!
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-05 09:24 [#01018829]
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Amazing list of cow products
You're one-stop shop for BSE info
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-05 09:25 [#01018831]
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"Your"
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-05 09:26 [#01018833]
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the shocking thing about the bio-industry is the industry part - it is a systemized killing factory.
it really is disgusting.
yeah sure, if you want to eat meat, that's okay, but do you want your meat delivered to you by such an industry? I cannot believe how people can turn a blind eye to it.
to say that it is part of life - bullshit. not in this form.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-05 09:27 [#01018834]
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whats the full name for the disease?
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