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http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/62707.html If you define exponents as repeated multiplication, just as multiplication is repeated addition, you can visualize it geometrically in your mind in a "copy and paste" sort of way. for example 2^1 = @@ 2^2 = (@@)copy paste @@ =@@@@ 2^3 = (@@@@)copy paste @@@@ =@@@@@@@@ etc. but 2^0 makes no logical geometric sense I'm pretty sure. Instead it has been conventionally defined as one just so it will fit in with the patterns produced by the other exponents. |
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yes that's right..............?? |
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so what use is all that? |
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I heard that otto von schirach spends his time tinkering with perverted number systems... such as where the first digit is base two, the second digit is base three, the third digit is base four etc. He figured out how to perform all of the normal mathematical operations using this system. This, I believe, somehow permitted him to build his cyborg hand. |
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actually it does make sense, you have to visualize the limit of the exponent to zero: 2^x with x=lim(a->0), it's perfectly right. 0 is nothing else than a very small number like 0,000000000000000000001, as you can't do math with 'nothing'. on the other hand=you can't do 1/0= because that's infinite. but 1/x=999999999999999999999etc |
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can it make me rich? |
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Dr. Math is cool. I saw him live once, about a year ago at a local rave. The aura of number two pencils, ecstacy and mathematical insight was unique. |
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i doubt it will make you rich...but you will be enlightened |
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:) I am well on the way to finding truth, I have almost completed phase one and shall soon be ready for phase two 'the journey' |
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hmm... that didn't make any damn sense. Thanks. I'm pretty sure that "0" stands for "nothing" not "a very very small number". That's why it can be used as a placeholder in the decimal system. the number "1305" has "zero" or "no" amount in the 10's place. I have seriously farted once or twice as I wrote this. I forget, but I'm pretty sure it was twice rather than once. |
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No, x^0=1 very definitely. x^(1/2) is the square root of x x^(1/3) is the cube root of x x^(1/4) is the fourth root of x x^(1/5) is the fifth root of x x^(1/6) is the sixth root of x etc., and this approaches 1 as the exponent gets closer and closer to 0. |
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zero is an integer on the real number line |
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This place is for people who have yet to realize the universal purposelessness of art. Sure, everything is purposelessless, but art, like music for example, is especially purposeless.... isn't it? But it can get worse than being merely harmless purposeless art. The behaviour of such a community of initially harmless sharers of their purposeless, though entertaining (sometimes), art can transform into a strange perversion of too frequent sharing of too low quality art just to get the reward of meaningless feedback. Soon, the social bonds are the focus rather than the art. Soon we find that all we have in common is the susceptibility to memetic viruses like the albums of aphex twin or posessers of music creating software, selecting it as fit for survival in its evil neverending putrid onslaught of binary replication. I'm going to bed and when I wake up I plan to be grumpy. We all have our off days, and I certainly deserve one tomorrow after all this bamboozled optimism. Or something. |
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the number 0 is pretty much non-purpose-less-less then again, you little philosopher, you shouldn't look at it that way. It doesn't combine at all. |
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hmm... that helped me understand even more than the distinguished raver, dr. math. I tip my hat to you. Unfortunately my hat was really a big plastic sombrerro filled with punch and when I tipped it it spilled all over you. On the positive side, the punch had ice cubes and was refreshing on this hot day, on the negative side, it's winter so actually by hot day I mean cold day, on the plus side you were really thirsty and were able to drink some, on the negative side the ice cubes knocked out one of your teeth as they hit you, on the plus side that tooth was one you needed pulled anyway because it was a baby tooth being pushed up by the adult tooth, on the negative side you have a strange condition where you still have baby teeth at your age, on the plus side... um |
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I am done being the rock star of this topic. Let it be understood that, on paper, Erronous shall be credited for creating the initial message thus spawning this topic. Therefore please direct all further inquiries and comments toward Erronous, the new topic owner. If, under this new leadership, Erronous is responsible for putting even half of the glory into this topic that I put into it, I will be a very happy Smurf. Thank you, and god-fish bless you fine citizens of earth. Sincerely, poshnu management |
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you'rre all going to hell. Jesus did not do maths. |
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It was a sin to take a picture of jesus and put it in your avatar. Everyone knows that if you take a picture of any american indians or any jesus's, you steal their soul by capturing it on film. Given that ordinary mortals have immunity to this, it makes one wonder why anyone would want to be a god or american indian in the first place. |
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don't josh around with your hardcore math here ;\ |
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.. a local rave for local people..? |
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The easiest way to understand: a^0=a^{x-x}=a^x/a^x=1. |
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Aah, limits, exponents.. Memories from last year come back into my mind. Could you throw some more logarithms into the mix ? |
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are you getting a bit... excited.. Fabien..? |
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tan(90) = infinite further than think I utterly stink at mathematics |
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e log 3^x = e log 9 3^x = 9 3^x = 3^2 x = 2 or something |
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I liked dr. math's 5^2/5^2 = 1 = 5^(2-2) |
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log *snicker* |
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don't worry about mathematix. i still don't understand why it works...and can't EVEN START TO FUCKING COMPREHEND why people are so pathagoeran in this day in age. Don't be so fucking egotiztikal! Our weak ass frankensteined constructs we dub as math is a jallopy of metaphysics. Do we honestly believe that the whole universe is governed by this crap? 1+1=1 when 2 rain drops merge... personally, i dig systems theory :P. making sence? hmmmm. |
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systems theory in the sense of those germans in the fifties? or the mathematical one, goedel and such |
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Erronous, mappatazee > yes, it is comprehensible, but only in an abstract way - if you see what i mean! you can't do 2^0 by counting apples... =) (and lots of math is like that) (i'm definitely not a math-head ^^) |
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well, it's somewhat based on grodel's works...however, i'm talking about fritjof capra, and co. |
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Oh yes, i like it! I 'm a mathematician and my love for math is even great as for music. |
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here's another, intuitive way of thinking about it. 2^3 means three 2's multiplied by each other 2^2 means two 2's multiplied by each other 2^1 means one 2 (no multiplication necessary) 2^0 means zero 2's multiplied by each other. here's something else to think about. if math is a subdivision of logic, and music is math, does that mean music is nothing but applied logic? discuss. |
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e=mc2 |
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i don't agree with "music is math", not everyone composes with algorithms and electronic and all this stuff - and what about improvisation?? now, if you want to have a cold, mechanical, soulless vision of the word, you can say the universe is math, our brains are like computers, everything is math.... and you may be right, maybe, but i don't want to believe this anyway. oh, and fuck boards of canada, too : ) |
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i was a disaster in math at school and i don't like it. but i like track as polynominal c, music is math, mathematical equation, etc... |
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btw: someone between your big mathematical brains solved the complex mathematical equation created by richie? |
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2+2=5 |
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I won't sleep easy till they crown wMw as a moderator |
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i remember something posted about this a LONG bit ago before i was even a MB member here. it said how this guy went to this chem/math chatroom, and posted the formula, someone in there recognized it as an afx track, and said that it's just a random equation, w/ no hidden insight. |
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