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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-27 18:38 [#01007397]
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Caution, the following post contains spoilers! -----------------------------------------------------------
After like 10 different searches involving "cruise, samurai, film, movie, last, etc..." I was unable to find a thread on this movie.. Anyway, I saw it a couple days ago, and thought it was pretty damn awesome, just because I've always been fascinated by the way of bushido and also of feudal japan's customs. Some parts were a little hokey, such as the last charge where tom cruise is miraculously only shot in the arm when everyone else is mowed down by the gattling guns, but overall I really liked this film.. What did you guys think?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-27 18:39 [#01007398]
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ok... it contained a spoiler.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-12-27 18:57 [#01007418]
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its out? is it out here (maine, us)
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-12-27 19:00 [#01007421]
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woops, i forgot the internet was capable of searching...
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Asche XL
on 2003-12-27 19:11 [#01007428]
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I saw it, and really liked it. It made me think how fucked up our shit is. The samurai new what was up, they appreciated everything. I'll buy it when it comes out on dvd.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-27 20:03 [#01007438]
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yeah, that's exactly how I feel.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2003-12-27 20:58 [#01007489]
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Something about Tom Cruise playing as a samurai gives me that "Its a typical hollywood piece of crap" feeling about it.
But, who knows maybe it is good, I'll wait for the DVD to come out to see it.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-27 21:02 [#01007492]
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"Tom Cruise playing as a samurai"
yeah, that really pissed me off when i saw the trailer, but after I saw the movie I really don't think they could have picked a better person to play the part, he actually kinda fits in with the long hair and the beard, he's very good in the movie, and you have to remember, the story is about an American who goes to Japan so obviously they can't cast a japanese person to play the part.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-12-27 23:22 [#01007599]
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it was more like tom cruise plays tom cruise playing a samurai
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-27 23:38 [#01007614]
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meaning.. you don't like his acting?
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-12-27 23:59 [#01007624]
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no actually i enjoy tom cruise but if you dont like tom cruise you're screwed because you get the same charming handsome character every time.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-28 00:11 [#01007628]
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yep, I agree with you there.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-12-29 12:19 [#01009064]
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id like to see it just to see how they did it...for the better\worse.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-29 12:23 [#01009068]
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i saw a thing on the history channel that explained that this movie actually portrayed the samurai incorrectly.
it said that they were actually the bad guys durring this time period. all resisting women's rights, and trying to hold onto the repressive caste system, and whatnot.
but, since ninjas are so hip right now they made them out to be noble.
course, i haven't seen the film so what do i know?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-29 12:23 [#01009069]
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sounds good, though what I really can't wait to see is the new Tim Burton film Big Fish and Sofia Copolla's Lost In Translation. Anyone seen either of those?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-29 12:34 [#01009076]
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I'd like to see it but it's not high on my priroties list. I've heard mixed reviews. I've heard that it's one of those movies that is tailored to please the Academy ala Saving Private Ryan or Forrest Gump. But i do have much interest in the period depicted in the film so i am planning to see it.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-29 12:35 [#01009078]
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i thought forest gump was pretty good
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-12-29 12:39 [#01009085]
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ninja please. those samurai wailed on ninjas all night long in one scene. ninjas aint shit compared to samurai.
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2003-12-29 12:44 [#01009090]
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Speaking of ninjas, does anyone remember that classic movie from the early nineties ('93?) called SURF NINJAS?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-29 13:36 [#01009153]
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oh i'm sure there will be more samurai movies, don't worry
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-29 13:58 [#01009182]
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I hope so.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-29 14:40 [#01009221]
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let's make a series of samurai/zombie movies
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Labium Sweat
from United States on 2003-12-29 14:42 [#01009222]
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Samurai/Zombie/Cowboys from Space
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-29 14:49 [#01009225]
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Samurai/Zombie/Cowboys from Space/Porno
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-12-29 23:49 [#01009740]
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I LOVED this movie. I thought it was done in such a manner that there was no dumb love story and Tom Cruise was QUITE tolerable. Makes you really think about the " art of war"
VERY GOOD MOVIE.....
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-29 23:54 [#01009742]
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somehow there will be a sequel to this movie. and it will contain zany hilarious comedic antics!!!!! and steve martin.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-30 00:12 [#01009748]
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Zap Rowzowzer!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-16 06:23 [#01035943]
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i went to see this last week and it was surprisingly good, it wasn't at all like a cheesy hollywood movie I expected. The love scenes were handled really well too.
Big Fish is the next on my 'to see' list
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-01-16 06:28 [#01035956]
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awesome movie. i loved it
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-01-16 06:43 [#01035991]
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saw it on tuesday, it was not a bad film, i wish it had gone into more detail about the way of the Samurai, but the battle scenes were a good trade off. I think the Samurai could have used better tactics though.
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-01-16 06:59 [#01036035]
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tom cruise as a samurai......uma thurman as one.....what next.....white rappers? oh wait.....
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-01-16 07:02 [#01036044]
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I though for a hollywood filit wasn'tthat bad. - Crusies character is good - guilt ridden,battle hardened civil war vet redeems himself by helping what he sees as folks being repressed by modern forces
- refreshingly lowkey love interest - reasonable non-gratuitous fight/training scenes
Did you know that the film is set just before the Meiji Restoration in Japan.Thats when she closed her door for another 50 years. It was after she sopened them again that judo, aikido, karate , kendo,etc thrived- modern martial arts.
i study pre-Meiji arts of kenjutsu, taijustu, kobudo etc...the kind you see on screen- real battlefield stuff but we'd use guns too!
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-01-16 07:05 [#01036053]
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so Japan just shut itself off from the world for 50 years after that?
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-01-16 07:36 [#01036124]
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and whose making money off of these stories.....america....they rip off every meaningful thing that ever happened throw in some big actor....and boom everyone gets rich.....look at the film "pollock" another example of how hollywood just looks every little bit of originality steal it and make money off of it while turning it into another cliche, who do u think turned che guevera into a cliche......idiots making it trendy to wear a shirt with his pic on it.....fucking hate marketing....
i am available for childrens parties btw
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-16 07:40 [#01036132]
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normally i'd agree with you, but not so much with this film.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-01-16 07:55 [#01036170]
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Jazembo... more or less. Overtly anyway although they still traded somewhat. they became isolationalist till the americans arrived in the late 1800's and threathened them with force.
whats new?
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-01-16 08:33 [#01036243]
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Dances with wolves, only its in the orient.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-18 05:20 [#01038983]
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how original
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-01-18 05:25 [#01038988]
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it was a very nice movie
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-18 05:28 [#01038990]
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i liked it
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nacmat
on 2004-01-18 05:48 [#01038999]
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it was nice
just nice
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-18 07:44 [#01039045]
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for somebody who seems to attract so much hatred just for being a prettyboy, cruise actually picks some quite interesting roles for himself. he doesnt play it as safe as he quite easily could in his choice of films.
i havent seen "last samurai" yet. can't put my finger on what put me off it.. but then i felt the same way about "master&commander" (thought it was going to be excessively long & lose momentum) but i was actually pleasantly surprised by it.
i'll probably feel the same way about "samurai".. but "lost in translation" & "big fish" are higher on my list of films to see..
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