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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 18:40 [#01002422]
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on a similar note to the bowie thing
i'm not usually a person to call someone a sell out but him performing with the sex pistols at the jubilee took the piss...maybe it was meant to be ironic or something but seems to me that it just proves he's 'subserviant' or whatever to the monarchy in the end
and didnt he also recieve an honour recently?
i've more respect for bowie though, he's no sting..
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 18:45 [#01002427]
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thing about lydon is, he'll wax lyrical & intellectualise about all sorts of things - but he has a sense of humour.. so in the end he'll take the piss by doing exactly what "johnny rotten" shouldnt do and (more importantly) take the cheque.. why do you think the ill advised pistols reunion gigs were monickerd "the filthy lucre tour" (after a newspaper headline following their interview with bill grundy)?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-12-22 18:45 [#01002428]
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who is john lydon
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 18:46 [#01002432]
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johnny rotten? the sex pistols?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 18:47 [#01002433]
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funnily enough theyre screening pistols documentary "the filth & the fury" on channel 4 right now..
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 18:48 [#01002434]
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i'm listening to every track by the ramones right now.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-12-22 18:49 [#01002435]
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oke the red head who killed his girl or not?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 18:49 [#01002436]
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yeah but surely they wanted to be taken seriously at one point and had real political views...that's how they started
fair enough stand from a distance and take the piss, but don't say you're at the centre of a movement and then do completely the opposite!?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 18:49 [#01002438]
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nah that's sid vicious
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 18:50 [#01002440]
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yeah shoulda said that's another reason that made me think of it, and i'd been reading that bbc article on refuseniks earlier
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 18:50 [#01002441]
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How long did 'Punk' last in england acrid?
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 18:56 [#01002452]
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i think punk collapses itself.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 18:59 [#01002456]
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well done on using parenthesis jivverdicker.. 'punk' is a nonsense
it was meant to be about a diy attitude to music (just like techno & electronica began), about individuality & resentment towards institutionalised ideals..
only it was turned ito a fashion movement. there were punk outfits, punk haircuts etc. which sort of defeats the point of autonomy from any kind of system.
it didnt help that most of the bands were more interested in the clothes & the attitude than actually learning to play their instrument or display any kind of innovation/individuality in their music.
s'pose thats the great irony. if you get too many people trying to do something 'different', they all end up doing the same thing..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:00 [#01002457]
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and getting their dicks sucked apparently..
and yeah that is a great irony
all good things come to a trend according to matt black!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 19:04 [#01002463]
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oooh - i like that matt black quote. very nice.
who is/was matt black.. or should i know this already?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:05 [#01002465]
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the weird bloke in coldcut?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:05 [#01002466]
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he's one half of coldcut...who are quite political
they were on newsnight a while back talking about the dangers of clearchannel (an american company) taking over the uk radio stations
if you look at the bottom of those big billboards you'll probably see a lot owned by clearchannel
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:06 [#01002469]
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'punk' the word is soo often used. Presently it means nothing to me. I am 100% DIY. It's not a mohawk, pink dye in your hair or pretend 'IDM'. I release music I want to hear, I play at venues I want to play. I've done this since I was 17
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 19:08 [#01002470]
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of course, coldcut - i knew it rung a bell (as they say) thanks for clearing that up.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:09 [#01002474]
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Ho Ho! you idiot!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:10 [#01002475]
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then i'm sure you realise how priveliged you are (however hard you've worked for it)
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:10 [#01002476]
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Earth, have you checked your privelages?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:12 [#01002478]
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think you should stay away from the late night drinking sessions!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:12 [#01002479]
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not yet, but thanx again. did you win at fifa?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:12 [#01002480]
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I know ben!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:13 [#01002481]
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yeah, tomorrow it'll be "christ i was hammered last night!" - again! :) mind you i can't talk...
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:15 [#01002483]
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It was a draw the lucky thing! bastard! 3-3
check slsk tonight, you'll be able to push in..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:16 [#01002488]
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what's your drink of choice?
if I could afford them, i'd drink white russians all day
my budget is more suited towards the tramp level though
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:16 [#01002490]
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ive got an interview with coldcut somewhere, talking about steve reich. tres interesting.
i love that track they did with lisa stansfield - my telephone.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:17 [#01002493]
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I was pissed the other night and climbed onto the roof of my house with a mate and it was so calm and nice...but after looking at the height the next day I don't think i'm doing it again
(until the next time)
(when I break my neck)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:20 [#01002500]
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/oct97/coldcut .html?session=d284bc4eccfce451a3e048d90e1b4df7
its a while since i've read this but its a good article, I like the way they are all for having music making as accessible as possible
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:21 [#01002501]
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haha! yeah irrational thought seems to go out the window so to speak
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:22 [#01002502]
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not available? :(
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:22 [#01002504]
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we also found you can go along the whole row of terraces from the front! scare the fuck outta people knocking on their attic windows
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:23 [#01002506]
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/oct97/coldcut .html?session=a02ed60b80c72d94ce02b0d8a9bd9c89
should work erth!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:27 [#01002512]
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the link worked but it says the article isn't available...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:30 [#01002515]
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ok....just search for 'coldcut'
its the first interview! bloody poncy scripts!
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 19:31 [#01002516]
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i play punk in the sense that:
it sounds like it i'm too lazy to play my guitar really well i want to ROCK PEOPLE i play very few, uncomplicated chords in one song.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 19:44 [#01002530]
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the best 'punk' album (imo) is the vastly underrated and unknown "dirk wears white sox" by a then unkonwn band called adam & thr ants. shortly after this was recorded the drummer, bassist & guitarist were stolen by malcolm maclaren (link!) to form bow wow wow. adam & the ants then reformed and became more pop-oriented. i couldnt recommend this album less.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 19:44 [#01002531]
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D.I.Y. If it rocks, electtro, acoustically, good luck! Keep at it.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 19:50 [#01002533]
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" i couldnt recommend this album less."
you really know how to sell it!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-22 20:03 [#01002537]
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i meant i couldnt recommend this album any less than im recommending it. is that right? :)
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