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Yes, ymenard is right. |
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I tend to agree with you. I find it easier to compare Autechre to art than try to evaluate it in conventional musical terminology.. it's a different type of music. I'ts more concerned with structures and sonic imagery than notes and beats, per se. While I'm not sure I'd agree with your art movement analogies 100%, I think you've got the right idea. Hell, you might be right about those too, but then again it's somewhat subjective. I agree with your listening methods, though. |
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for us laymans of architechtural knowledge, i dont see it, i just see great music, in fact, i only see that autechre has tried to create beautiful music, and this music places an importance on the sound of the music rather than the structure of the music. yes the music sounds structural, but i think that is a quality of the sound rather than the music (the structure of the track). |
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No way. It's definitely both. |
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well, to classify it as this and as that, arnt we just arguing the same old argument, autechre is idm, not its glitch, no its...., if you really want to say, hey they are about the sound of music and about the structure of the track both, yes, they are but if you listen to their music, the structure of their tracks is not as ground braking as their sound. so yes they are both, but i think were they really pushed the envelope is with their sound. |
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i think we are saying the same thing though, the more i think about it, to say their sound is ground braking, i dont mean that their music is just about the sound, sure its about the structure of the track and rythym / beat / melody. ive heard they described as architects or audio technology researchers, but i think this is dead wrong. there music is not just concerned with sound. |
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Well it goes again with the analogy of musical architecture. As creators, do they care about the form, or the fonction? Which one follows what? Should they be concerned by the sound, or the structure? I'm a little tired of emotionally responding to electronic music at first. For me, it has never really done anything more than to give myself a couple of cliché moments while listening to a piece. Either AE, BOC, AFX, VSNARES, []PUSHER, whatever, etc... I try never to fall into that trap. It's easy, I mean anybody can go "ooh it feels like blue aliens crawling into my brain and tickling my ears on a cold chilly winter night"Â. That gives me no true satisfaction to my intellect. The same applies to art, there's at least a reasonning to start with, that you can deliminate a certain piece in specific regions of art. Sure you can after that, give yourself emotionally into it, but at least give yourself a structure of what you're (in this case) listening to. When let's say, you see a work of art, either a sculpture, a painting, a building, etc... what are your first impression? They cannot be of pure emotions. You categorise itself, within specific patterns like the volumes, the shapes, the situation, etc... That's exactly what's done with Autechre. Music is an art form, and Autechre imho does more into art than any other of the big ones of electronic music. Tri Repetae is the first step by the duo into something larger then what they had done before. Even the second disc of TR++, it's not as important as the first one considering it was released before and doesn't reflect as much the "revelation" the music is performed. It's similar to the first step in modern architecture of the 20th century. There was some little work done before, but when the greats like Walter Gropius, the Bauhaus school, etc... started working, it was a "revelation". That's what Tri Repetae++ feels to me, it's the opening to something new. hmm... |
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I'm a little tired of emotionally responding to electronic music at first. For me, it has never really done anything more than to give myself a couple of cliché moments while listening to a piece. Either AE, BOC, AFX, VSNARES, []PUSHER, whatever, etc... I try never to fall into that trap. It's easy, I mean anybody can go "ooh it feels like blue aliens crawling into my brain and tickling my ears on a cold chilly winter night"Â. That gives me no true satisfaction to my intellect. if you dont look at music in this way, you miss something essential that the music has. i agree with the part about the visualization of the music (the bit about the blue aliens) but i will only respond emotionally to music, because thats what i think music, paintings, ART is - its a piece of architecture / technique / SOMETHING put out by an artist that can only be understood by connecting to it emotionally, by the listener. if i were a music maker, i guess i could only look at a piece of art, in the way you suggest, strictly a scientific artistic study, without emotional connection. i am not an artist, and with that, i experience art by taking it on emotionally and seeing where it brings me. i could never have art or music any other way, it is beyond science or the objective, to me. |
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Tri Rep is not my fav AE album, but it's probably still better than anything else released the last 20 years. |
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One thing that's nice about this whole movement that we're listening to these days... Not since modal Jazz have music been that much appreciated for it's purest form of engagement between the listener and the creator. And only classical music could be within that border (and not all of it). |
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so true, at certains times and moods, i am so engaged in this music, that i find i can put the rest of my life on hold. i can stay within like this indefinetly, if i did not have to attend to the rest of my life. for me though, its not just about the escape, but its something thats totally undescribable. but i ramble. |
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Greetings xltronic.com! This release is the fucing shiznit. I'm glad they bundled the extra stuff! hard to find otherwise |
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even vletrmx? if so, snap out of it man! |
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hmm really power? I used to like it, but became really sick of it =( |
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that was the first to go. what happens in it? =) |
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ace release. i have this version which i recently picked up in tower records, ny. ive only just realised that this version is different. anyways, possibly my fav ae release - a nice bridge between old and new. oh and i love the 2nd disc too! ++ |
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