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offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 16:49 [#00989917]
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anybody else think they were a great band?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-13 16:49 [#00989918]
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yes

i'm sure plenty of people do actually


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 16:52 [#00989920]
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i thought they might..
just got into listening to all their albums again recently -
fancied engaging in some conversation with people about
them.. thats all.
wish i hadnt said anything now.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-13 16:54 [#00989923]
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hee hee


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-13 16:55 [#00989927]
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these people do


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-13 16:57 [#00989929]
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i hope everything is alright


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 17:03 [#00989943]
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i reckon the best albums were doolittle & surfer rosa.. the
come on pilgrim ep was great too.. and bossanova had some
good tunes on it.. ah hell, they were all great.
though i do think trompe le monde was their weakest one. it
did herald the end of the band. and the elements that had
begun to creep into some of the tracks on that record were
what made frank black's solo career ultimately
disappointing.
still.. i guess after being in a band as monumentally
exciting as the pixies, the magic had to die.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-12-13 17:17 [#00989974]
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i'd say planet of sound was their worst

i had a 32 track pixies compilation i took to new zealand
with me somewhere, pretty nice


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 17:21 [#00989976]
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just album tracks or b-sides too?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-13 17:28 [#00989984]
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the elements that had begun to creep into some of the
tracks on that record were what made frank black's solo
career ultimately disappointing.


I agree - the line "jefrey with one f jefrey" sums it up for
me - nonetheless there are some very nice songs on there:
motorway to roswell, alec eiffel, letter to memphis, and the
wonderful title track.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-13 17:30 [#00989988]
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oh yeah and palace of the brine - hey wait it's a pretty
good album afterall!


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 17:38 [#00990004]
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thanks for agreeing with me.

its not a bad album.. but when you compare it to the others,
its a shame it was their swansong.
there is something beautiful about some of the tunes on that
record. a sort of tiredness and resignation.. like a musical
equivalent of autumn (beautiful but the beginning of the end
all the same) something theyd not managed to capture that on
their earlier lps.. probably because they werent about to
split up.
but yes, anyway, its not as consistent as their first 4
records.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-12-13 21:14 [#00990228]
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i think bossanova is easily their weakest album, its still
good but it just its balanced at all. i really hopoe the
news or them touring isnt true; i dont think the pixies
should return. i also agree, frank black solo is very
disappointing. did you hear Cult of Ray? So awful, my god!


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-13 21:24 [#00990238]
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'frankblack' was kind of cheesy
'teenager of the year' had its moments, but was just a bit
sprawling for a rock record.. not consistent enough.
'cult of ray' had one or two good ideas.. but not enough to
make a whole album (let alone a whole song) which came
anywhere near the quality of his pixies-era material.
i havent listened to anything hes released since then.

respect to black francis / frank black / charles thompson
III for progressing, i just didnt like the direction he
went.

i doubt the rumours will come true.
if they do, it could be fun to see the old pixies tunes live
(so long as they didnt try to tag new material onto it)..
but it seems unlikely. i dont know how amicable their split
was.


 

offline mimi on 2003-12-13 22:26 [#00990269]
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i love bossanova, straight through, what is with you people
;)

also, from doolittle, tame is one of my favorite songs from
them. haven't heard trompe le monde or surfer rosa yet, in
fact i just heard these records as a whole for the first
time a couple of weeks ago.


 

offline shibumi from United States on 2003-12-13 23:55 [#00990282]
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Oh yeah, you guys know they've reunited and are going on
tour, right?

Potential for a new album as well.

Pardon me while I clean my shorts -

=-O


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 00:12 [#00990291]
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Bossanova was my first Pixies album - I love the spaciness
of Ana, The Happening, Havalina -

Surfer Rosa is probably their best but it's very different
from Bossanova, much rawer and crazier, somehow more
charming too... the re-release comes with the songs from the
Come On Pilgrim ep as a bonus.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 00:16 [#00990292]
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The Happening is Black Francis's best song, lyrically -

[...]
I was driving doing nothing on the shores of Great Salt
Lake
When they put it on the air i put it in the hammer lane
I soon forgot myeslf and i forgot about the brake
I forgot all laws and i forgot about the rain
They were talking on the 9 and all across the army band
Across the road they were turning around and headed south
with me
It got so crowded on the road i started driving in the sand
My head was feeling scared but my heart was feeling free
The desert turned to mud it seems that everybody heard
Everybody was remembering to forget they had the chills
Then i heard the voices on a broadcast from up on the bird
They were getting interviewed by some Good man whose name
was Bill
I'm almost there to Vegas where they're puttin' on a show
They've come so far i've lived this long at least i must
just go and say
Hello


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 05:07 [#00990449]
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this isn't a dig at fleetmouse..
but i've noticed that threads seem to die as soon as people
start quoting lyrics / scripts or just listing albums /
software / films / books.



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 06:11 [#00990523]
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ha. grew up on the pixies too. :)

Bossanova is the weakest. it sounds too clean and breezy,
the only one that actually sounds like it has been recorded
in the eighties.

the first two (+ come on pilgrim) are the best, I think.

it's not very fair to keep comparing Frank Black's solo work
to his Pixies work. to me it's very different and very
good.

"Frank Black" isn't cheesy - it has some great songs on it!
a nice little collection of weird stuff.

and I hate "the happening" - really dislike that song. :)


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 06:18 [#00990530]
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re. bossanova - theres some great songs like 'dig for fire'
on this lp.

i do agree with you that doolittle surfer rosa & come on
pilgrim are the best.

its hard not to look at them in context - its the same guy
doing them. i know fb was trying to do different stuff, all
im saying is that it doesnt strike a chord with me like the
pixies did. i dont think his solo releases are as
revolutionary or important for music. SO many rock bands
(good ones and shit ones have ripped off the pixies)..

im not deriding the frankblack lp - for me its cheesy
oddness is half of its charm.

i feel that 'the happening' like 'all over the world' and
'is she weird' dont fulfill their potential.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 06:31 [#00990539]
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I got into Bossanova during a very bleak time in my life
full of dead relatives and cruel ex girlfriends and the
happening was my favorite track because I wanted to be part
of something bigger than myself, like driving to las vegas
to see aliens... I'm lucky I discovered Frank Black's lyrics
instead of Scientology.


 

offline Aphexisatwin from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-12-14 07:16 [#00990567]
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I d0 :)


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-12-14 09:55 [#00990716]
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trompe le monde is my favorite pixies album. their songs and
arrangements just kept getting weirder and more wonderful.
plus their tightest playing as a band is on that record. I
love the cheese combined with complete emotional sincerity.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 10:03 [#00990722]
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Ya ever heard the version of subbacultcha from the purple
tape - the old demo they rereleased a little while ago?
Makes an interesting contrast to the Trompe le Monde
version.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-12-14 10:08 [#00990724]
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yeah, they shouldn't have taken out that bridge or whatever.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 10:17 [#00990729]
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Well they split it off into a separate song - it became
distance equals rate times time.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-12-14 10:22 [#00990734]
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I must be thinking of a different song. wasn't there another
one on the purple tape that had a part that didn't make it
to the album version?


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 15:37 [#00991156]
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id be interested to hear the purple tape & live recordings
that theyve been releasing over the last few years. is the
bbc sessions lp any good?
im more familiar with the albums than anything else. the
live cd they tagged onto the limited ed version of 'death to
the pixies' is quite interesting.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 15:45 [#00991170]
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you should get the B-sides compilation at least.

some great songs on there - Manta Ray, Bailey's Walk, Make
Believe (in which the drummer waxes lyrically about Debbie
Gibson), Santo, Build High - to name a few.

nene - I think only subbacultcha has an extra bridge.. and I
think it's good they removed it, disturbed the flow of that
song too much. subbacultcha must be one of the c00lest songs
evva.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 15:47 [#00991173]
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the BBC sessions is okay. not essential. but if you like the
pixies, you'd better get it.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 15:49 [#00991176]
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i really like subbacultcha..

qrter - are the re-recorded versions of gigantic & river
euphrates on the bsides collection or not?

i really loved the biblical aspect of black francis' lyrics
- makes them sort of timeless


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 15:49 [#00991177]
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all death & sex & pestilence


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 15:50 [#00991181]
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the extended version of river euphrates is on there, no
gigantic though.

it really is ALL the b-sides.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 15:51 [#00991183]
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and I can't BELIEVE what Netlon Sentinel says in that other
thread linked above about the Breeders' "title TK"..!

that album is SO damn good!! :)


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 15:51 [#00991184]
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i'll put it on my christmas list..

the rerecorded 'gigantic' was much better than the album
version - the way kim deal totally changed the phrasing of
the bassline.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 15:54 [#00991191]
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I do think I know it.

I can remember liking the album version better though.
sounded more fluid, if I remember correctly.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 16:01 [#00991196]
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to me the album version's "duhduhduh-duhduh-duhduh" phrasing
seemed more simplistic & less groovy than the
"duh--duhduh-duhduh" version..

..sorry thats such a terrible way of explaining it. what i
mean is, the album versions bassline is more predictable..
doesnt make you want to dance from you hips.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 16:15 [#00991204]
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I'm just listening to some of the live tracks from death to
the pixies - lots of energy and crackle. Gonna have to pick
this one up.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-12-14 16:43 [#00991216]
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are you kidding me, the happening is easily the best
track(or so) on bossanova.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 16:48 [#00991218]
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make sure you get the 2cd version.
the 2nd cd is live.
the first is just the album tracks, apparently a best of
(though im not sure fb endorsed it - as he'd left 4ad
records by then) - but theyre mixed louder than they are on
the original cds & you get that groovy single-version of
gigantic..


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-12-14 17:41 [#00991290]
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Surfer Rosa is my fave. A handful of truly classic albums,
but Frank Black or whoever he wants to call himself, with
the Pixies and without, grates on my nerves for some
reason.

I'd rather not see them come back actually, don't tarnish
any of their sterling rep.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 17:42 [#00991293]
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indeed


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 17:44 [#00991296]
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no.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 17:46 [#00991302]
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Heh - even listening to surfer rosa where Kim is talking
about the teacher who was "into field hockey players" and
Frank is injecting his stupid comments, even then Frank was
annoying

AWWWW but we love him anyway

GROUP HUG


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 17:47 [#00991304]
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"it was so.. hush-hush.. they were so.. quiet about it"


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-14 17:48 [#00991307]
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yes and Deal sounds like a dumb valley girl..


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-14 17:54 [#00991329]
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Heh, I made a track with that vocal sample - Amenelie

It kinda trails off into nothing - I've always meant to do
something more with it -


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-14 18:08 [#00991363]
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very stuttered choppy sound


 

offline jennysaid from Canada on 2003-12-14 18:11 [#00991364]
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they ARE a great band.


 


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