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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 12:41 [#00972702]
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i argue now for about a month with my friend about the term idm. i know this has been discussed lots before, but i really wanna know your opinion KNOW.
here is a link with a short but quite good article about it. i mean in lots of articles like this i read that idm at the beginning had something to do with dancefloor music, raving. but know ? i mean when i know ask someone about idm artist's he mentions otto von schirach, venetian snares, autechre. but is this idm ? what does this have to do with dancing ??
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-12-01 12:46 [#00972714]
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idm means nothing as it covers too many genres
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 12:48 [#00972716]
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ugh..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 12:53 [#00972725]
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yeah i know that game ! wasn't that the one you had th fly with that helicopter and collect cave people ??
come on...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 13:09 [#00972746]
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i'm just curious how this all evolved... what people think as idm now.
i always thought that otto, snares and ae ARE in fact idm. but know i'm not sure any more
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-01 13:34 [#00972774]
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"i always thought that otto, snares and ae ARE in fact idm"
if it isnt idm, does it change anything? imo it is still great music so who really cares...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 13:36 [#00972779]
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pigeonholing music into genres is not an exact science.. and sometimes it has some nasty side-effects (genre snobbery being one).
the thing is, music has come so far and so many styles have melted into one another (especially with electronic music) its hard to set some things aside from one another.
personally, i dont like the term idm - because it really doesnt mean much, literally or musically..
i prefer "electronica" - but even that is a massive umbrella. as is techno, drum&bass, jazz etc etc.
its always been this way.. take "rock" for example. hendrix falls into that category (and also into blues & r&b) but, so does status quo.. or robert palmer.. or phil collins..
sigh..
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 13:38 [#00972783]
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"if it isn't idm, does it change anything? imo it is still great music so who really cares..."
bravo
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-01 13:43 [#00972788]
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haha, thats something you havent heard before, right? :)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 13:48 [#00972795]
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well.. it is a hideous cliché
but, like all the best clichés, its true..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 14:23 [#00972848]
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erm, not really. but so many people use the term idm, me too. but i would want to know what i'm talking about.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 14:28 [#00972859]
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if you don't know what you're talking about, i'd definitely steer clear of using that terminology.
there are no rules, so its going to mean something slightly (or dramatically) different to different people.
i wouldnt lose sleep over it if i were you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 14:43 [#00972884]
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why the hell would anyone seriously use the term "idm"!?!?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 14:48 [#00972895]
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not really loosing sleep, but i was argueing kinda ruff with my friend about it...
i mean that's a term that shouldn't really exist...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 14:51 [#00972902]
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well then we all seem to agree.. the term is more or less redundant.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 14:52 [#00972907]
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you never used it ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 14:54 [#00972915]
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fuck that's kinda scary... i mean a few thousand people use a term not even knowing what it means... !
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 14:55 [#00972918]
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same can be said of many, many things in this world..
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 14:58 [#00972924]
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example ?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-01 15:02 [#00972928]
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*sigh*
musicpoliticsartracereligionsexualityhistoryliterature etc.
too much to go into here and now. all i meant was that i've met a lot of people that talk knowledgeably about things they only relaly have a loose grip on.
thats about it really.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 15:05 [#00972931]
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kinda disgusting... curious that only one person has something intelligent to say about this... a pity
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Mr Toady
on 2003-12-01 15:07 [#00972935]
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sometimes its tough, though, when someone asks: "what kind of music dyou listen to?" and all i can give is names... cause how in the freak do you describe autechre to someone...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-01 15:09 [#00972936]
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until today i said - "idm"
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-01 15:14 [#00972942]
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yup
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-02 01:14 [#00973711]
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yup what ?
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-12-02 01:47 [#00973718]
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"I listen to inventive, non repetitive electronic music,... and no,.. it's not what you're thinking of,.. you just have to hear it to know"
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-02 01:51 [#00973719]
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you can dance to some idm. Well maybe not you but I can :D
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 01:58 [#00973722]
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i listen to pulsetronic pseudo-jiggle mega music
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-02 03:16 [#00973774]
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Yup IDM
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 04:05 [#00973808]
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What DOES "imo" stand for? (No, it is not a typo, I didn't mean IDM, that's "intelligent dance music," I know that, but the phrase you seem to use often instead of saying "in other words.." or something like that, "imo."). What are the letters for?
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nacmat
on 2003-12-02 04:20 [#00973820]
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autechre is pop venetian snares is rythm & blues
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-12-02 12:30 [#00974288]
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hey that's one of the best quotes i ever heard on this board....
(refund - isn't it time for an avatar change ? eh.. whatever)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-12-02 15:00 [#00974515]
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I've gotten comfortable with this one,...
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