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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-29 09:50 [#00969998]
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Well, unless this album is a serious grower and I just don't "get it" yet, "Ty - Upwards" is the first release on Ninja Tunes (Big Dada, the label this is on is an offshoot- a bit like Arcola on Warp)that I've heard/got and not been pleased with...
I tend not to buy releases without at least hearing one track from them first, but in the past I've been consistantly happy with ninja tunes records (something I think Ninja beat warp on...) and this particular release has had some excellent reviews so I bought it.
Pretty boring, uninnovative and the few tracks with good music are let down by Ty's rapping, it'd work better as an instrumental album apart form the track where he talks about his music making causing problems with his relationships, which is both funny and accurate.
As this is on Big Dada (not strictly a ninija tunes release) and a one off disappointment, I'll let this slide, if it happens again Ninja will of ruined their "flawless" streak (in my book) and will be just another lable :-/
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-11-29 10:35 [#00970018]
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Really? You think that highly of them. That's something. I think Amon Tobin and Coldcut are the only artists worth listening to on that label.
I think they did a poor job in the mid-late nineties of keeping their sound fresh. They released a bunch of records, 9lazy9, DJ Food, Herbalizer...to name a few... that all had that same UK instrumental hip hop thing going on. It got boring real quick.
Thankfully, Tobin keeps things interesting and, although it's not on their label, DJ Coldcut's 70 minutes of madness is the greatest mix ever.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-11-29 11:01 [#00970032]
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apart from cinematic orchestra, im not a big ninja tune fan at all.
i think they label has too much of a homogenous (sp?) sound...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-29 11:18 [#00970045]
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ninja tune has been good... but i'd say that an awful lot of ninja tuners have been flogging a dead horse for at least a few years now
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2003-11-29 11:29 [#00970059]
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kid koala, coldcut, amon tobin, mr scruff, bonobo and up, bustle, and out are the only artists i've checked out from ninja tune. i like all of them a lot. what else would i like along these lines?
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-29 11:34 [#00970069]
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i really enjoy Ninjatune, my last buy was the new Fog album, but i'd say Ninja are very consistent, good variety too.
is Irrisistible Force Nija?
and who can deny the genius of Coldcuts Journey by DJ, monstrous.
havent been able to keep up to date with recent ninja releases, so i havent heard much.
Big Dada releases have been good too, CloudDead was a great find for me through ninja
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-29 11:58 [#00970100]
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Jaga Jazzist is a quite cool ninja tune artist...
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-29 12:01 [#00970106]
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Jaga Jazzist are a big band arent they? 'bout 8 of them or something. havent heard anything, but meant to be very good live
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-29 12:30 [#00970136]
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Spoonz: Get xen cuts (3 disc sampler) and decide for yourself :)
Phiz: Jaga Jazzist are very good and according to Keyfumbler great live too.
I nearly bought the new fog album today, what's it like? Irrisistable Force is ninja, I've not heard anything by them (him?) other than Nepalese Bliss (which I like).
After listening to the first track a couple more times it has grown on me, but the rest of the album is pretty lacking.
thirdball: Their releases do tend to have that highly produced hip hop "Ninja Sound", but it's one I like.
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-29 12:41 [#00970151]
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the Fog album being honest isnt as good as the first, that guy is on the verge of lunacy, his scratching is amazing, live he is meant to freak alot of people out with his deck skills, but the album isnt as consistent as the first.
Global Chillage by the Irrisistible Force is a great album, also his Mixmag mix is a great listen, i think its on cd with Alex Patterson mix, a great double header.
and the Fishdance Remixes is a beast too. 8 or 9 track remix thing, great stuff
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-11-29 13:02 [#00970164]
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Ninja Tune are a pretty decent sort of label. Can't say I've followed them a lot recently but I mean they have a pretty decent rooster of artists. Certainly don't come close to Warp or Rephlex but they are a pretty class act.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-29 16:34 [#00970561]
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Ninja Tune is crap. I listened to Coldcut , and , besides Timber theres nothing interesting in it. Just a bunch of guys with seriously sharped nerves sitting besides drums - nothing interesting, just sounds.
shit shit shit
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-29 16:36 [#00970564]
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and, Ninja Tune and its logo are the worst combinations - theres nothing similar between ninjas and their shitty music. Fuckin Photek has more Ninjas in his music than Amon Tobin.....i really dont understand this logo
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-29 16:45 [#00970583]
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It's because of "stealth", in their early days they had a club night called stealth and that was the name they gave their music- a bit like rephlex and braindance.
Ninjitsu = stealth based martial art = appropriate for the label.
Before you get too harsh on them it's worth noting the cross over of artists between the warp/rephlex/ninja, not to mention the remixing that goes on between them...
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diablo
on 2003-11-30 12:41 [#00971592]
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I like ninja tune
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-11-30 13:56 [#00971658]
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So you liked chocolate weasel? Man if you did tell why it's good because i really didn't like it, i though it was very poor.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-30 14:01 [#00971661]
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I've not heard that, it's the guy who worked with shy fx (t-power) isn't it?
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-11-30 14:02 [#00971666]
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T-power was involved and considering he wrote mutant jazz i was very, very dissapointed. Go and check it out and you will see what i mean.
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