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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 10:49 [#00966628]
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I don't normally feel guilt... I have excellent self control so I tend not to do things I regret very often. However, occassionally I'll do something (almost always realising first I'll get twinges of guilt about it later).
One particular thing that I feel bad about, yet still continue to do is to ask stores to demo equipment, knowing full well that if I like it I'll buy it online where it's typically about 15% cheaper. On the one hand stores get given (or at least at a lower price) equipment by the company precisely for demo purposes- I don't suppose it matters much to the company where you buy it from.
I just feel bad (particularly at independent music gear stores) wasting their time when I'll never buy from them.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-26 10:53 [#00966638]
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yes but that's economics for you. for every sale any sort of store makes, there's at least 10 more they will not make. that just how things are. I'm pretty sure you're not the only one to do this.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-26 10:53 [#00966639]
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don't do it then
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Rubicon
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-26 10:54 [#00966641]
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uum feel the same, i really want to demo a turntable at the moment from this small independent music shop knowing that i probably wont buy it from there, i usually try to support independant retailers especially record labels - shops tho, spose in smaller companies you get a better service, i dunno
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-26 10:58 [#00966653]
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god will punish you all
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-26 11:00 [#00966657]
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bollox, i go to music stores Specifically to thrash their synths
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-26 11:01 [#00966659]
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what the fuck!? why the hell would you care about that!?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 11:02 [#00966660]
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That's the thing, if it were only £10, or perhaps even £20 difference on a bit of kit costing several hundred, I would. The thing is, when it's more like £50-80 difference it's out of the question. On the one hand I'd rarely buy something that expensive without having a go on one first, so simply buying from online stores is out of the question.
If they sell records as well I invariably buy one or two, just to sort of pay them for their time/using their stuff. I'm sure the big online retailers know full well this goes on and see it as a way of cutting the cost of having to have demo gear/a shop front to let people play on it.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-26 11:02 [#00966661]
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heheh
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-26 11:02 [#00966662]
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you want to try before you buy like
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-26 11:06 [#00966667]
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there's nothing wrong with that - it called comparison shopping. EVERYONE does it.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-11-26 11:11 [#00966675]
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but look what you'll have! ;)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-11-26 11:20 [#00966679]
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the companies probably do get the gear for free to use as demos, and they want you to fiddle around with it, tell your mates where they can go to give it a tweak, and so the pyramid begins
as for the independant stores, i wouldnt feel to bad, they know that people buy on-line, but they also know that good customer service (i.e. answering your questions and/or giving you advice) that you will want to return to them for something that you'll will need, thats usually the better part of indi stores, is thier honest concern for the customer, where as larger companies often just want to "move the merchandise"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 11:22 [#00966680]
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Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it, thanks :)
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-26 11:31 [#00966690]
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I used to go to the local music shop all the time (a few times a week for months) & sit in the studio, just playing on the synths for hours at a time, I think I was known as a regular in the shop. The staff were really cool with me tho..... which just encouraged me more. Maybe I'll ask about getting a job there one of these days, that would be perfect!!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-11-26 11:37 [#00966698]
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you have already been rejected, just as your ass print in the chair, word got out quick who you are.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-11-26 13:21 [#00966800]
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I thought would be about Guilty Gear.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 15:37 [#00966912]
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It had occured to me and I did consider calling it that in an attempt to get more people to read the thread >:)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-26 15:47 [#00966943]
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I'd rather pay the extra money to the local shop than deal with shipping fees, shipping insurance, shippers drop-kicking my package, waiting waiting waiting, not being in when it arrives and having to schedule a trip to pick it up... fuck that shit.
Besides, if you buy it online and it's defective or sucks, you can't go back and raise a scene on Saturday afternoon slamming your hand on the counter and complaining loudly (the handslam works every time, just be careful with glass countertops, and make sure to say "I FEEL RAPED" loudly and repeatedly)
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diablo
on 2003-11-26 15:49 [#00966949]
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Thats the only thing you feel guilty about? what a saint ;)
doubt they mind really
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diablo
on 2003-11-26 15:50 [#00966951]
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he
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 15:53 [#00966955]
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I'd feel raped if I payed the £120 more than the online price that I was quoted at my local store though :P
I like to have the luxury of buying in stores for the reasons you've mentioned, but I just feel so gutted spending those sort of sums of money for it...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-26 15:55 [#00966957]
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£120 is a lot of money - even to an upper class toff like ceri
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 15:55 [#00966958]
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I can honestly say it's the thing I've felt most guilty about in ages. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to lose sleep over it and I don't really care that much about it... it's just that guilt is such a rare feeling for me I suppose it hits me proportiately harder :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-26 16:00 [#00966964]
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*rolls eyes*. Yes, because I have soooo much money now I'm not working anymore :P
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-26 16:07 [#00966971]
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maybe you should buy a saisho instead. i hear dixons has a christmas sale on
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