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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-25 19:22 [#00965748]
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I've never done phets, but does this analogy hold up?: weed--->hash speed--->crystal meth?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-25 19:34 [#00965763]
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Yeah I think there is more of a diff between weed and hash though
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-25 21:39 [#00965859]
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in the us, speed is a generalized street term for amphetamines, of which there are many, eg methamphetamine, dextroamphetamine. if you buy meth on the black market, it's probably not pharmaceutical in origin and it's probably methamphetamine plus contaminants. it might also be methcathinone (which is also called cat).
in the us, generally ice refers to the smokable form of methamphetamine.
when you smoke cannabis, generally you are smoking the dried female flowers (buds, which have some leaves mixed in and about the flowers). most of the active ingredients are contained in crystalline glands on the surface of the leaves, concentrated about the flowers. hashish is made by drying the plants, and then shaking and rubbing off the crystalline glands and pressing them together into a sticky resinous goo. "hash" is not necessarily more potent than "cannabis". the quality of the plant determines the quality of the cannabis and the hash.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-25 21:49 [#00965873]
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cat heheheh. that was the funniest thing i've heard of. reminds me of a redneck drug or something.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-25 21:51 [#00965877]
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ah, thank you for clearing that up.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-25 21:56 [#00965885]
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but like E is amphetamine aswell - I wouldn't call E speed.
Keep in ind that slang differs in different countries, over here we do a lot of
dexxies - dexamphetamine whizz/whipper/whip - speed meth/ice - every time i ask someone if it's the same as speed or not i get a different answer - one of my mates who does forensics says ther'es a slight chemical difference though.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-25 21:59 [#00965891]
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E isn't speed, I thought. the pills mostly consist of a mix of E and speed..?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-25 22:02 [#00965896]
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E=MDMA something like 2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethyl-amphetamine or something
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-25 22:03 [#00965899]
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plaid, your Cannabis descriptions are making me salivate.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-25 22:05 [#00965906]
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ah, here it is: ecstacy=3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-25 22:10 [#00965916]
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I was just combatting Plaidzebra's quote of "in the us, speed is a generalized street term for amphetamines, "
I'm not saying he's WRONG or qanything, just that speed shouldn't be a name for ALL phets where there are othe rphets that are obviously not speed.
It's liek all dogs are 4 legged animals but not all 4 legged animals are dogs
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-11-25 22:14 [#00965918]
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we use to drive to edmonton for meth cause it's so cheap up there. hahaha
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-11-25 22:20 [#00965923]
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My best friend was a crystal meth addict .. it was hard, especially when I started doing it.
It's really messy.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-25 22:24 [#00965928]
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od- e is also a phenethylamine. there is a substance called amphetamine, and it has none of the effects generally associated with amphetamines. i used the word amphetamine in it's common sense, and wasn't speaking strictly in terms of chemistry. but you are correct, an amphetamine does not necessarily have "speedy" effects, so not all amphetamines would be called speed. "speed" is not really specific in reference to a chemical, it generally means "amphetamines that are speedy."
*coughs and passes hookah tube to q4z2x*
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-25 22:26 [#00965932]
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It's liek all dogs are 4 legged animals but not all 4 legged
animals are dogs
and yet, not all dogs have four legs...
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-25 22:50 [#00965953]
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eek! oh joy!
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-25 23:20 [#00965971]
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plaidzebra - ah that explains a lot
and yeh i was wating for someone to point out that not all dogs have 4 legs
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-26 00:32 [#00965992]
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i just updated Grimace for this occasion.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-26 00:34 [#00965993]
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that's a weird coincidence. someone just sent me that mcdonalds marijuana picture
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-26 00:38 [#00965997]
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i have the mb set so that i can't see people's avatars unless i check their profile, so i read yr post about grimace about five times and decided that you must be stoned out of your mind.
then i checked your profile...
and laughed.
strangely enough, i suspect that grimace is actually headed to taco bell right now, in secret...
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purgruv
from Accrington (UK) - 52nd State (United States Minor Outlying Islands) on 2003-11-26 01:18 [#00966051]
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hey all of you!
why not try not taking drugs, and learn to hurt a bit, then you'll see reality.
After that everything becomes so much clearer. It's easier in the long run to go without all that shit.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-26 01:19 [#00966052]
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i really don't know if grimace would ever betray teh MickeyDee's..
or accept a beef any less artificial/gross..
mappat: that is weird. OOOOOOHH WEEEEEE OOOOOOO!!
all right, ONE person may punch me in the face..
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-26 01:27 [#00966059]
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purgruv - yeah I was off drugs for years and years - throughout my entire childhood - I know what it's like not to be on them :P
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purgruv
from Accrington (UK) - 52nd State (United States Minor Outlying Islands) on 2003-11-26 01:28 [#00966060]
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in your childhood you didn't do any drugs? surprise, surprise
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-26 01:29 [#00966062]
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purgruv, what makes you think anyone here's takin' drugs?
that's a *virtual* hookah, friend.
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purgruv
from Accrington (UK) - 52nd State (United States Minor Outlying Islands) on 2003-11-26 01:31 [#00966065]
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yeesum sorry man me didnt realise everyone was speaking METAPHORICALLY
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-26 01:32 [#00966067]
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i can quit anytime i want a terrible headache!
*does the dew*
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-26 01:34 [#00966069]
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so anyway, like me an q4z2x we totally had this *hookah*, and then....
wait, what was i saying?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-26 01:36 [#00966072]
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purgruv - YEAH MAN OMG!
Please man, preaching here isn't gonna change anyone. Even if you're right we're all too stupid to understand.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-26 01:37 [#00966073]
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why don't you say:
"drugs are bad, byes byes"
or something about K_Maty?
he's all the rage. much more than any drug..
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purgruv
from Accrington (UK) - 52nd State (United States Minor Outlying Islands) on 2003-11-26 01:37 [#00966075]
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0k, i'll stop (it wasn't preaching)
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-26 01:43 [#00966084]
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Thankyou! :)
FRO K_MONTY ONYL!1
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-26 03:40 [#00966175]
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corrupted girl: yeah yeah... its dirty shit.
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2003-11-26 04:01 [#00966221]
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i know people who speed, and i could easily get some. but it has never appealed to me before.
i'll stick with natural drugs.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-26 04:05 [#00966227]
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yeah sticking to all natural is a better thing to do, but would you consider opium all natural? thats pretty bad, but most likely not that bad in western society unless you can get your hands on a lot of it to keep doing.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-11-26 07:31 [#00966444]
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I don't find opium bad.. to me it's almost identical to weed...
but all drugs are bad. BAd baddddddADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.. really.... just leave you unsatisfied.
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pf
from Finland on 2003-11-26 08:00 [#00966457]
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I've never done any drugs, and i have to say that i'm glad. Drugs are one of the most fuct up things in the modern world. I do not mind some dude's smoking weed, but stuff like meth is fucking up many young peoples lifes.
and this is a really sad thread to read, but its the reality.
fuct up..
hehe, quite a rant..
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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2003-11-26 20:26 [#00967146]
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Never heard of that AFX sndtrk. movie.. This the one??
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