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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 06:48 [#00964711]
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i hate america, and i've lived here my whole life
can anyone offer me mature information and advantages / disadvantages to living in some european cities
mainly
-london -paris -prague -barcelona or -munchen
shanks.!.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-25 06:49 [#00964713]
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you live in maine, no wonder you hate it
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-25 06:49 [#00964714]
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nah go to amsterdam instead
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 06:51 [#00964716]
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actually i go to college in connecticut right now which is FAR worse, maine is the best state ive been to / lived in, in this country
so yes...dig it
could be worse - i could live in pennsyltucky like yourself - hahaha
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-25 06:53 [#00964718]
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AH! but im not TOO far from some interesting places.
i just imagine the cold up north would get to me.
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-25 06:54 [#00964721]
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i dont really like amsterdam so there's your mature argument to that
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 06:56 [#00964723]
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ive seen amsterdam, stayed for three days - the novelty of marijuana wears off after the first 24 hours, though the museums and record shopping are good
maine is cold, so is new england, but when your raised here it feels less cold - i fucking love snow so i cant picture much w/o it
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 07:06 [#00964727]
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i'm an american that has been living in sweden for 4 months so far. i always said that i wanted to get the fuck out of america and move to europe, but little by little i'm starting to realize that the US isn't so bad...i kind of miss it even. european cities are pretty cool though, especially berlin.
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k_maty
on 2003-11-25 07:15 [#00964741]
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great topic--ive narrowed down the country im going to live in to 5 choices--australia, canada, england, norway, or sweden. ive heard in australia you can get a masters degree in like 2 years because they go through the summer, is this true?
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-25 07:16 [#00964742]
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dont go to london whatever you do, unless you really really cant be bothered learning another language
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-11-25 07:26 [#00964760]
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Why Norway?
Imagine a country where nature is a majestic gift to mankind. Imagine a country enjoying the abundance of nature. Accumulated through thousands of years. You will discover a country, which is enchantingly unique. Natural. Imagine a country where light and darkness intertwine. Where seasons melt together in colours and crystals. Imagine a country where the thawing snow gives way to blossom. Where sea and mountain unite. Where nature is a precious gift to mankind. Discover a country where nature creates art. Where you are invited to a life-fulfilling experience of diversity.
Friendly, down-to-earth people, unique scenery, summer nights bright as day and delightful snowy winters make Norway a very special country. In summer, there are plenty of attractions and activities to keep you busy - the unspoilt open country of the Sámi people in the north and fjords, salmon fishing and festivals in the south.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:02 [#00964804]
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(something i should have stated earlier)
im looking at europe for two major reasons
1) im tired of living in rural areas and want some city livin, hence the european cities list
2) i like the idea of being able to wake up and travel to different countries in europe w/o having to take a 9 hour plane flight
dig?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:06 [#00964814]
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out of that list -barcelona -paris -london are my favourites...london and paris are pretty expensive and that is a big disadvatage
barcelona is very suitable city for young people imo, at least from what i've experienced
i never been to prague tho...could be nice as well
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-25 08:09 [#00964818]
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if your serious about changing your life then maybe you should vists each of these cities first and not rely entirely on what the board thinks. But trust me on the london being crap.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:11 [#00964819]
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well, london is a PERFECT place for someone into idm,dont you think? :)
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:12 [#00964821]
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well i like getting peoples opinions who live there - its better than being a tourist and having that be your idea of a country / city
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-25 08:13 [#00964822]
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true. but its not the perfect place to live.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 08:13 [#00964823]
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...if only moving to another country was as easy as packing your bags and saying "let's go"
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:14 [#00964824]
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yeah no kidding...
if only i had the balls to sell everything i own and be a wandering fool...
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-25 08:15 [#00964826]
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and you'll get a crick in your neck through having to look up into the sky when talking to people.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-11-25 08:16 [#00964827]
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I agree with tolstoyed. London seems best with the language and the nightlife there. Hella expensive though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:16 [#00964828]
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i am probably never going to leave this place...i love it, its quite close to most of the big european cities and still a bit remote - like oasis in the middle of the crazy europe :)
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nacmat
on 2003-11-25 08:19 [#00964831]
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come to barcelona brother!!!!
(sad nacmat lives in madrid, which is not bad really)
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nacmat
on 2003-11-25 08:20 [#00964833]
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wait for me to visit you
I had a friend who was in slovenia this summer and he said it was beautiful
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:22 [#00964834]
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really? he liked it? what a weird friend must that be... :)
and you're welcome to come any time!
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:25 [#00964837]
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what does a typical oen bedroom flat let for in london nowadays?
in GBP.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 08:25 [#00964838]
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if i'm not mistaken, i've heard ljubliana referred to as "little prague" except without the tourists...now that's not a bad combination!
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:28 [#00964842]
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i have a friend who just recently moved to prague and loves it
i could dig a smaller, non-touristy version
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:28 [#00964843]
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the only thing i'd like to do is to get a house in our region (close to sea and italy) called karst, really a nice place, only about 30 km to airport and about 80km to our major city. anyway its a beautiful landscape, very much alike provance (in southern france)...
its going to take me few more years tho...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:30 [#00964851]
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i never been to prague so i cant say...and the tourists, its still pretty quite though there are more every year, but it is not disturbing, yet...
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k_maty
on 2003-11-25 08:34 [#00964858]
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where can an american work in europe?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:38 [#00964861]
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i guess it depends on what are you specialised in :)
a buddy of mine's been looking for a job ever since he finished university about 6 months ago, i dont think its much better in other cities around
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-11-25 08:44 [#00964869]
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imo. the total lack of a strict college admissions process has fucked this country on it's ear.
my school, for example, is FULL of very very stupid people who simply go to college because that is "what you do when you graduate high school" - this in turn floods the job market w/ total morons every summer after graduation
my hopes are to graduate and just get a job i enjoy - prefereably working in a record shop - and drastically changing my lifestyle to get used to having less money then i live with now
what could i do in europe? who knows - that move may take a few years from now but still i like to get peoples general ideas about the globe - through the eyes of a local, not the eyes of someone who visited for a week and claims to be a fucking tour guide
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 08:54 [#00964882]
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will the girls affect you decision in any way?
perhaps you should do a research in that direction :)
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 08:54 [#00964883]
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i feel the same way...i would love to just work at a small record store and be happy than some bullshit 9 to 5 desk job. i don't know how realistic that is, but it's a nice dream anyway.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-11-25 08:55 [#00964885]
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come live in jerusalem!
the excitement never stops
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-25 08:56 [#00964888]
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In terms of a Paris/London comparison I'd say go for Paris. That's an unbiased opinion as I have lived in both cities for extensive periods of time. Then again you would need a fairly high level of french unless you managed to be employed by an american company here.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 09:02 [#00964895]
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i've heard it's a real bitch for non-europeans such as americans to find work/get permit in europe unless you're highly specialized in something, company sends you over, have family connections, or marry a native.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-25 09:05 [#00964898]
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chris eckman moved over here in my home town, so it cant be that bad :)
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-25 09:12 [#00964912]
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I think it's harder for us europeans to move over to the states actually.
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-11-25 09:20 [#00964923]
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yeah, i wouldn't doubt that...either way it's a lot of paperwork and too much of a hassle sometimes, but if you're determined enough to get out of wherever you may come from than i'm sure it's entirely possible.
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