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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:03 [#00964166]
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also after deleting those IUCtl.dll and IUEngine.dll and getting to iucontrol i noticed that they keep reappearing
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:05 [#00964167]
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"Do you know about hidden files and folders?
Are you sure that folder is not hidden ? "
i have the option of hiding the contents of that folder
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:07 [#00964168]
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The reason they are coming back is probably because we have ignored step 1:close your internet browser!!
You will need to close the browser then repeat the process again.
Before you close your browser, make sure that you have turned ON 'Show hidden files and folders' and also make sure that step 3 is carried out in the correct registry folder!!! If not then bad things will happen!
So before you do all 4 steps on your own is there anything you need help with?
If not, carry on and restart your pc when done.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:16 [#00964171]
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3. Follow this path on the left...
HKey_Local_machine\Software\microsoft\windows\currentversio n\windowsupdat e\IUcontrol
let me know when you are in the folder IUcontrol.
I am under IUcontrol.
Also that message says to put that CD in. I was thinking if i do reinstall the operating system would i still have all my original files?
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:18 [#00964172]
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id print out the instructions before you continue. Each time you open the internet browser you will need to start again from step 1.
ALSO ON STEP 3 Only delete 'SelfUpdateStatus' (with the blue icon )in the right side of the box when you are in IU control in the REGEDIT box. You don't need to save just close the box .
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:18 [#00964173]
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If i still had my original files i wouldn't be too concerned. But if reinstalling the operating system meant losing my files i wouldn't do it.
We have only done that once but we had to reformat the drive
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:20 [#00964175]
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don't put the cd in. When you are finished with those 4 steps, you should be able to use the windows update site correctly and that message should go away when the update is complete, That is my hope anyway.
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:20 [#00964176]
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We are avoiding reinstalling the OS or formatting anything thios way.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:20 [#00964177]
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ok here goes nothing!
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:22 [#00964179]
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you sure you are ok with all the steps first!!???
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:27 [#00964181]
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ok i did it and it didn't work.
i followed the steps accordingly
hmmmm
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:28 [#00964182]
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you closed the internet browser and restarted the pc?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:30 [#00964183]
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internet browser closed the files were regenerated so they were deleted
followed step 3
restarted computer
opened internet explorer tryed to update same results as before
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:34 [#00964185]
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and you followed step 4 also? (4.Delete iuenginenew.dll, if it exists. )
so we are still at this stage?...
"Went to the update site. Clicked update. It had that green progress bar thing fill up and then it went to
New Windows Update Software Required
The Windows Update site has been updated. To update your version of the software and begin using Windows Update, click Update Now.
i clicked it a couple of more times and the same green progress bar"
Well at least its no worse off, i'll get back to you when i find more info, feel free to sleep if you need to!, i don't think this problem will get any worse and it might take a while to fix :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:40 [#00964188]
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you are probably correct sir
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:46 [#00964191]
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Well we are stuck for now, you cant solve the missing files problem using windows update because that wont work.
You cant solve it by inserting the cd and doing as it says becase that doesn't work either.
I am sure that there is a solution that does NOT require you to format you hard disk.
Reinstalling windows xp will probably do it but there is a risk that you will loose your data also.
Tyhe only advive that i can offer you for now is to keep your firewall ON and keep AVG up to date.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:50 [#00964195]
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sounds good! that is what i plan on doing. Just keeping the old firewall on
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 20:51 [#00964197]
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much thanks again!!!!
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:52 [#00964203]
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jesus christ, i have just realised we have spent 3 hours on this ! started at 00:57 and its now 03:50 by my time, doesn't time fly when you're having fun!
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:54 [#00964204]
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No problem, i'm always glad to help (or in this case glad to try!)
God bless you Mr.Gates for there is never a dull moment with a microsoft operating system :)
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-11-24 20:55 [#00964206]
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You can totally reinstall XP without harming files on the computer - the only thing you will have to do is reinstall applications (since the registry gets wiped).
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 20:59 [#00964212]
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Where were you 3 hours ago man !!! :)
Are you totally sure on this, because there is a lot at risk if it goes wrong.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 21:04 [#00964214]
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WOW!!! 3 hours! Shit i was learning here!
Joyrex are you 100% sure???
I have acidpro files saved? Those will still be there?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 21:05 [#00964215]
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lol!!! The term "Fashionably late" came to mind!
If this is true i will shit my pants! :D!!!
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 21:10 [#00964221]
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If he is 100% sure that you will not loose your data files then i recomend you reinstall windows xp. This is almost certain to fix these type of problems. There is just the hassle of reinstalling everything all over again.
If it does come to this then I strongly recomend the first thing you do, when you are online again , is to visit the windows update site and install ALL of the critical update files.
Then get your firewall and virus scanner running and update the also.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 21:16 [#00964230]
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yeah! i probably might just try this!
*gets nervous*
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-24 21:19 [#00964236]
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you are in for a lot of hours work if you do. I wish we could find an alternative.
If you have a slow internet connection, the windows update will take a VERY long time.
I need to get some sleep now so ill wish you luck whatever you do! Cya later... i hope :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 21:21 [#00964240]
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Thanks! This will be quite interesting indeed! I just might wait until tomorrow morning but i am currently unsure. I might just wanna do it now since i dont get to sleep until late
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-25 11:01 [#00965039]
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So did you do anything in the end or did you decide to play it safe for now?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-25 11:02 [#00965045]
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i was too nervous!!! i am still pondering it! It could work..... but he never got back to us! Arrrrgh!
*has a panic attack*
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-25 11:06 [#00965051]
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yeh, that's why i didn't want to suggest it to you, because i don't know for sure. How much stuff have you got that you would need to backup?
If it is only several GB (5-20) then you might want to consider buying a small, cheap secondary hard disk. Then you can transfer all your essentials to this while you reinstall windows on the primary hard disk.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-25 11:08 [#00965055]
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it is around 36gb
I am $1285 in debt. Some of that money i owe the bank. So making any purchase is impossable
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-11-25 11:13 [#00965065]
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36GB, SHIT!! Is that all music? Maybe a kind xltronic member could lend or donate one to you. You should start another topic and beg!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-25 11:15 [#00965077]
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I think i just might reinstall..... i might just be crazy enough!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-29 10:12 [#00970008]
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Jazembo, i have lost everything i had! All the music i was working on gone!
It was corrupt! When i went to reinstall i couldn't and had to reformat it!
arrrgh!
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