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It's the land of opportunity, and that just means that if you're in trouble, you're fucked. It's all up to each person to make it. |
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...and on whose behalf were the terrorists making this profound statement? |
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Why? What are they doing in Iraq? |
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When they recovered from 11sept the last thing the Americans should have done is to run around mindlessly bombing everyone and everything to try and find blame. They needed to sit back and find the reason why someone would go to such extreme measures against them and then may be they'll see who's to blame. |
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Saving the people of a terrorised country. Don't you follow the news, or are you so wrapped up in the politics of yesteryear you cannot see that |
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If you weren't all a gang of fucking electronic music listening hippies you would know that what Bush and Blair have done is right. You have to attack this sort of enemy and kill everyone involved, it is the only way of truely wiping it out. |
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actually, from prugruvs view, i now see that Bush is an utilitarian (read Bentham or something) |
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Sit back and let the world laugh.....I don't think so.....they didn't do a proper job when they did retaliate in my opinion. Remember 'Shock and Awe'.......that should have continued for much longer. The proof of that is that Sadam is still alegdely alive, and that there is still trouble in the region. |
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Actually I was thinking more along the lines of Catalan, Tamil, Colmbian and Irish terrorists, none of which are driven by anti-US motives. So, terrorists are responding to the actions of the US government, it still isn't a justification of terrorist activity. |
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Can we stop all the Yanks entering Britain? Or at least Wales? Fuck knows why they come here anyway. |
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Behalf? Maybe what was done was extreme, but compared to what is done on BEHALF AND FOR THE PROFIT of the 'American way' everyday AND IS HIDDEN AWAY makes the WTC like a fucking game of lego!!! |
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Yes, I am wrapped up in the politics of yesteryear. Like the 1980s when the US and UK armed and supported Saddam. Or was his terror different then? |
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Diplomacy no longer works with the terrorists of the 21 century.......we've proved that. |
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You seem to forget that many of the political leaders were in wars themselves. |
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Then I suggest you put the past behind you and move on.......what was done then was a mistake, a mistake that now has to be fixed...........sadly with force. |
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Yes there are other groups which you mention. But these aren't the terrorists that are the target of the so-called war on terror; they are marginal players. As far as I'm aware there are no Irish nationalists in Iraq; just US grunts. |
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FORCE - the answer to everything. |
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I met a kid in the street once. I gave him a sweetie, and he thanked me. Then I punched him in the stomach and chopped his head off, and got my sweetie back. And lots of oil. Or something. |
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Here's a man who's clued up I've gotta check that out |
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Say someone breaks into your house and kills a member of your family. Would you want them punished, or would you get all reflective on what drove them to commit their crime? Now, in an ideal world, a Star Trek world, maybe we would all choose the latter option, but in reality that generally doesn't happen. If someone attacked me, my family or my country and I would want them wiped off the fucking map. Bottom line is people have every right to be pissed off, that doesn't give them the right to blo |
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+w people up. |
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If that member of my family had a long history of badshit that he'd done against every other minority in THE ENTIRE CITY it's about time he got plugged then isn't it... |
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If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy chappie danbrusca - you too buddy |
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Yeah.....what were these people thinking.....did they think they could come to the US fly planes into two of the most popular landmarks the US has, and expect to get away with it. They're crackers!! |
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Hear, hear! |
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Look at it like this. We get pissed off about war and we protest. Terrorists get pissed off about war or whatever and drive a truck full of explosives into a bank, a UN building a street cafe (or rather, they get some impressionable young mind to drive the truck full of explosives for them). It seems to me that we have the right idea. |
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I'm not talking about JFK here, but things happening today! |
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I'd say that that was an overtly gung-ho reaction caused by an event which in turn was the result of an equally gung-ho reaction. Gung-ho = Dumb American headless chicken |
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What would you rather see??? Just stick to your sightseeing tour of London with your protest sign! :) |
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who did? saddam? - no, there is no proven link between iraq and 9/11... also there were no WMD found. However there are links between the Bush admin and saddam, and bin laden. They were funded and armed by the US not so long ago. |
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Anyway, weekend for me, hope this threads continuing come Monday, have a good'un. |
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Easy to say that when it's not happening to you. Tell me, were the 40 or so Turks blown up in Istanbul over the past week tools of US imperialism? |
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Colin Powell? |
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I'd rather see a diplomatic solution or allowing the UN to search for weapons in iraq. Instead, bombing lots of innocent people creates a lot of justifiably angry people with a serious grudge against the US / UK. It is seen by many as a war on Islam from right wing Christians. |
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and there are also links between Saddam and that proud anti-war nation France. What's your point? |
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The problem here is that some of us have differing opinions, and we're not gonna agree on this. I think we've past the point where diplomacy works, and now its time to use more firepower. If you don't agree with me fine......but I certainly think that that the powers that be are certainly not gonna be swayed by some 'circus-act of a protest' in the streets of London. |
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my point is there is no justification for attacking iraq |
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It is always good to put your point across. It can and will infuence voters here and in the US when they see how many people oppose what is being done in their name. |
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The people in the US also have to remember, that they put Bush in the position where he is anyway - lets not loose sight of that |
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I agree. |
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Actually, the Supreme Court put him there. |
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If he doesn't get re-elected, then I think any other US government would take the same action. |
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yeah and they are also the people who can vote him out (assuming there isn't any more ballot rigging next time) |
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Oh, yes, he won by an amazingly large majority... |
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That was a follow-up to post #00959899. |
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Doesn't matter......the same would have happened regardless of the figure head. |
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"Speaking earlier today, Mr Straw said: "This is an attack on civilisation - it is indiscriminate." He spent around 30 minutes in the wreckage of the HSBC building with the Turkish foreign minister. Nowhere in the world was safe from the "ruthless fanatics" who perpetrated terrorist attacks, Mr Straw warned. Turkey was bracing itself for further possible attacks after the foreign secretary said that he had extended a Foreign Office travel warning about the country on the basis of "intelligence". Mr Straw today emphasised that the advice only warned against all but "essential travel" to Turkey's major cities, not to tourist destinations. The warning would be lifted "as soon as possible", he added. Yesterday's devastating attacks killed four Britons and injured around 450 others, authorities said today." How can bombing a country ever stop terrorism? When the IRA pub bombing campaign was underway, did we bomb targets in Ireland? Since the IRA was largely US funded why didn't we bomb the US? Coz they weren't a small country with lots of oil that was on our shopping list of countries to "liberate" |
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Yeah, I'm afraid you're right. |
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We didn't bomb Ireland because the Irish government wasn't complicit in the terrorism and many of the terrorists weren't from the republic anyway. |
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what the fuck is this shit - (If you are affiliated with any US. Government institution, you may disregard the preceeding message. Failure to do so will violate US laws §§ 24, 25 and 68) tell me it's a joke. I <3 teh ireland as a sidenote :D |
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