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Recomend me music hardware - synth, seq., samplers and etc to use into IDM/deep/ambient sound! |
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No hardware geekk there? |
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3ghz P4 with 1.5gb ram and two 100gb 72,000rpm HDs, with a creamware soundcard. Sorry, I couldn't resist :) There are some hardware buffs here, just bump the thread a couple of times over the next 24 hours and you'll get some replies. |
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Analouge synths - the majority of them are very fun to play around with. Especially if you have an FX Pedal. I love playing around with my Yamaha CS-01 and my Casio CZ-101 especially when i hook them up to my Boss SP-303 sampler :) |
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Clavia Nord Modular! (ALOT of IDM artists are using this beauty) or check the new nord modular, the G2, to be released soon... |
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elektron machinedrum.com |
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sonicstate.com that's usually where i get my gear from and you can read user reviews. they have alot listed there. |
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i'm no expert on this, but i'll tell you what i use. for beats, my alesis sr-16 is very versatile and easy to use, plus it has many sounds. the only problem with this is the fact that it lacks some of the sounds i desire, but damn you can make good beats with it. as for keyboards, i have several, but my favourites are my yamaha psr-6, yamaha pss-470, and casio ct-625. these are all old, they sell for about no more than 50 bucks used a piece here in the States, in pawn shops. and for effects, i use a digitech rp7 effects valve - a guitar effects processor. it has 40 customizable presets as well as many mods, reverb, dual delay, preamps, all that fun stuff. that was 187 bucks used. i recommend going to a pawn shop (don't know what you call them over in latvia) and asking if you can "check out" something in-store before you buy it. oh yeah, i also have a Numark tt1150 that i received w/ needle, used, for about 70 bucks. i'd recommend saving up about 400 to 500 bucks to start out. |
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I use a Yamaha Ex5 for my sounds, and sequencing/recording is down with software such as Cubase SX. While the Ex5 is one of the "fattest" if not the fattest digital synths I have ever heard, it has some shortcomings such slow external connections (SCSI is all that is offered besides the substandard midi capabilities). Personally, I love a lot of real time control (which the ex5 doesnt have much of - 6 assignable knobs), so you might want to consider something like a Nord Lead (would be my choice) or a Yamaha CS6x if you can't afford the Nord. Also, a word about analog synths.. They are known to have a "warmer" or fatter sound, but as time goes on, the gap between the sonic capabilities of analog and digital grows slimmer and slimmer. Analog synths generally have much lower polyphony than digital synths (not really a problem if you use computers to sequence), and also require tunings every so often (one of the main problems with analog- its instability). There are in-between routes, such as a keyboard with digital effects but analog oscillators. If anything you should go to a music store and test about a bunch of styles before making any final decisions. Sorry this may have been kind of rushed but my ride is waiting so I had to quickly type, ill try to correct myself later when I get back if I need to. |
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a orchestra |
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I USE A YAMAHA SU700 SAMPLER AND I RECOMMEND IT BUT I HAVENT USED ANY OTHER SAMPLERS YET |
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OKAY |
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has pretty much everything in one package. Drums, atmospherics, fx, sampler, sequencer, etc... plus, if you get serious about making music, it works wonders when hooked up to a computer running Logic Audio or Cubase. |
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Mostly everything I use is software based, but I have an oxygen 8 midi controller which is handy if you use a program like fruityloops. |
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the korg triton recieves a lot of praise.. but I for one think it's sounds leave something to be desired.. They are all too smooth.. too silky. I can't speak for other people, but I want a lot of "grit" in my sounds.. the triton just sounds too digital IMO. |
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moog+klipsch~;-> |
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roland sequencers (post 1990) nord lead ensoniq asr-10 (WITH zip drive!) korg electribe sampler |
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So, im a bit brownse shops and - first seq. sampler and to make some sonic acid sounds. And by the time i can by analog synth (Clavia, ?? ). |
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the new korg groovebox with the two valves in it looks ok, perhaps a good harware start. im not too into those, but a lot of people like them. I really think you should get a fairly cheap analogue synth and a midi-cv convertor. You can get old things from places like . I think you should get something like a roland SH101, Juno, Jupiter series, SH2 or something like a korg MS20, or a cheap minimoog or something, or if you can find it for a good price, a sequential circuits prophet 5, or something along those lines. they are all analogue, and sound great. You will need something like a cheap pc with a soundcard with a midi port(or you can use a joystick port) and maybe a midi-cv convertor so u can control the older analogues which pre-data midi. The good thing about using external synths is you can use a cheap sequencer, like cubasis and a rubbish cpu and it will work fine. as for samplers, one word. AKAI. dont bother with the rest, unless on a budget, but if you can get an akai. an S3000 or above is a great sampler, S2000 is ok, try to avoid S1000 or S1100, not that they are bad, just they aren't that great(12bit sounds/old). you could try an emu sampler but i recommend you ask for more opinions and try some out. avoid 'phrase samplers',these are for djs only, you cant transpose the sample by playing different keys on a keyboard with them, only play different samples.the new akai MPC looks nice, think it is MPC1000? cant remember, its blueish and got fake wooden sides or something, but is great for a budget musician. behringer stuff is dirt cheap, cos its made in china, and the pay for the assemblers is peanuts. it is ok in build quality, not great, but its so cheap! they sell loads of mixers, fx, outboard gear. look at the site linked to by hevquip, for info, infact just find one, type in e.g. roland jupiter 8 review in google and take it from there. also a look at the connections on the back of a device will g |
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...... also a look at the connections on the back of a device will give u a clue about it. if it uses phono plugs(like on a record player) it is generally for DJs, and semi pro people, if it uses 1/4" jack plugs it is for small studio or home use more. id tend to aboid anything with the words groovebox emblazened on them, they are more for djs. they produce cliched sounds which allow you to build up songs quickly, but the songs have no individuality to them-think of a hardware ejay here! for digital synths, a korg wavestation could be found fairly cheaply, and creates the best pads around, it uses vector synthesis, and is great for rich complex sounds. hope this gives you some more ideas, i could chat on for hours, but i think you have to make up your own mind at the end of the day. however, remember hardware can initially yield less rewarding results than software, but as your collection of hardware grows, it will beat software solutions 9 times out of 10. also the hands on approach, especially of analogue synths with lots of knobs allows for ideas to be explored which would never have had occured with mouse and pc! |
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thats a good plan youll need another sequencer to get the most out of the es1 |
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"it will beat software solutions 9 times out of 10. also the hands on approach, especially of analogue synths with lots of knobs allows for ideas to be explored which would never have had occured with mouse and pc!" I definately agree. I've always been an advocate for hands on control, and theres something about using a mouse to turn knobs that just seems rather ungainly. Also, you cant turn more than one knob at a time. Although this isnt that important, on my ex5 I often make slight adjustments to two knobs instead of a large adjustment to one to get the tweak I am looking for. Also, I would recommend getting something that has at least one modulation wheel, and if possible, a ribbon controller as well. These things offer a lot of real time fudging(a good thing in my vocab) of the sound. A word about the Clavia synths - they are not analog, but digital analog-emulation. Although they still produce some very fat and funky sounds, and have TONS of real time control (if you can afford it I would go with the Nord lead 2 or 3), they aren't analog. What others will most likely tell you (and already have) is that analog is where it's at. The technology of monophony, plus CV-gate and the instability of analog is a huge detractor in my opinion, which is why I went with the EX5 - It generates some reallllly fat ass sounds with Yamaha's AWM, VL (extended acoustic) AN (analog modeling), FDSP (DSP effects processing) and several combinations of the above. It also features a disk drive and there are hundreds of soundsets available that faithfully recreate the analog synths of old, such as Moogs, the Yamaha CS-80, the MELLOTRON (woot) and more. Another thing is that you'll find more modern "workstation" synths can do everything you would need, for example the EX5 and its big brother the Motif series are both samplers and sequencers as well, although I still do all my sequencing with software. |
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Grt a TB303, TR808, TR909, MPC 3000 & some decent effects like Lexicon etc. 8D |
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I CAN WIN! |
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ESQ-1 or ESQ-M (rack version) - They sound very organic and warm. I did some of my best stuff with an ESQ-M and a CZ-5000 + Amiga 500 with Octamed for sequencing and drums. Mmm... |
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Akai MPC |
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My studio: (always forget how to link properly!) http://www.geocities.com/j_swift777/index.html Favorites are Yamaha CS60 & Juno 106. I definetly get on best with analog gear - Would love to get an Akai MPC and maybe a Super Jupiter at some point. http://www.transelectronic.org (you can see RJ Valeo's studio there - best ambient/IDM producer around at the moment IMO) |
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OOH Swift! You got one of those A-frame stands which are near impossible to find. It's too late now, I've got two computer furnitures holding everything. Is that from Ultimate Support? If you are looking for your very first keyboard synth, I'd go with something that is 16- or 32-part multitimbral. Roland, Korg and Yamaha all make these. After that, get a small mixer and a decent fx box. You might want to make sure the synth you get, has separate fx for every part. As soon as you get a second hardware instrument, you'll need a mixer of some kind anyway. Roland XP series and Yamaha S series come to mind right now. My setup: Behringer MX2642 mixer Alesis Midiverb4 fx Lexicon MPX-1 fx Zoom Studio 1201 fx (<--very cheap!) Nord Modular rack Nord Micro Modular Kurzweil K2000R (R = rack) Analogs: Juno-106, Roland SH-5, MC-202 recording: Akai DPS12 HD recorder Philips CDR765 ESI M8U 128-channel USB MIDI adapter ESI U24 USB soundcard I'm in the process of moving over to Cubase SL on my laptop. Alot of synths can cost alot, but still be useless as your only instrument. Like the Nord Modular, which is only 4-part multitimbral. Sure, I can sequence 4 instruments at a time, but if it's alone, it's not that fun. On the other hand, if you use a PC for beats and so on, it could work. |
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