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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-11-20 10:48 [#00958439]
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I've decided to go with Cubase SL, which is the lighter version of SX. Does anyone else on the board use Cubase (VST, SX etc)?
What kind of computer do you have and how many audio tracks can you play back at once? Memory and HD rpm is what I need to know.
There's a nice package deal called BPM Force (slightly less than 3000 Swedish krona). It includes some waldorf plug-ins, Attack, D-Pole and something else.
Maybe I'll just get SL alone, I mean the plug-ins are available as "extended demos" anyway.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-20 10:55 [#00958451]
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you can do at least 16 Midi tracks.. I'm sure you can do more tho.. adobe audition has a 128-track setup though
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-11-20 10:57 [#00958455]
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i've got sx but don't use it
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lucifer
on 2003-11-20 11:03 [#00958458]
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I use cubase vst 5.1 , got a cracked version of sx somewhere,.but it didn't move me enough to delete 5.1.
I'm using a pIII 1000hz 256 internal and it can easily manage 15 audio tracks (30 monochannels)
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-20 11:17 [#00958469]
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i use SL, it fucking rocks. I have had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever. Nothing but joy joy joy. You can have infinite audio tracks playing as far as im aware. Its up to your memory and CPU power more than cubases' capacity
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-11-20 12:22 [#00958566]
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Theo, I can have as many MIDI tracks as I want. MIDI isn't the issue here, you can do MIDI sequencing with a C64 if you want.
lucifer, that makes me feel so happy :) My laptop is a P4M 1.6GHz, 256MB with a 20GB 4200rpm HD.
The guy at the store said it could handle 32 tracks without problems, but I guess he would say anything to get at my wallet.
aphextriplet, how many VSTi's can you run at once, while still getting reasonable polyphony? Also, what's your computer specs?
thanks all
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-20 14:43 [#00958803]
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I use Nuendo, the next step up from SX (supposedly).
although Cubase 2.0 should be out soon.
I have P4, 1,3Ghz, 256 Mb and 20HGb HD. I can run around 20 tracks with not too many heavy plugins running.
most important thing is your soundcard though. mine is crap, so I can't use too many plugins at the same time.
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redRummy
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-20 15:15 [#00958830]
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it depends very much on the VSTi's you want to use - for example, Waldorf Attack is very CPU heavy....
I used to run Cubase 5.1 VST 32 on an old Athlon 700 with no problems, and I could have, say, a half dozen smallish VSTi's running.
As far as VSTi's go, you can always bounce the audio to its own track, and open another instance of another VSTi's if you're running low on performance (you can always load it up again if you want to change it)
I've currently got the same version of Cubase on my new Athlon XP 2800+ Barton.... and, well, it runs faster, and I can load more :))
get loads of top quality RAM (Corsair or Crucial) - get a decent operating system that allows 1G RAM (XP etc not win98), adn get a big fast HDD (7200rpm at least, preferably SCSI, Firewire or even Serial ATA)
PS - get a HDD with a large buffer (8Mb was the best last time I looked)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-20 15:21 [#00958834]
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a mate of mine got cubase sl when he bought his new G4 he showed me it
we had a fck about with it and it seemed lush to honest but that is only the opinion of 1 days use
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-20 15:24 [#00958837]
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it is. unfortunately you need half a brain to use it, but thats ok, coz ive got a whole one.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-11-20 16:47 [#00958916]
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sx and sx2 pretty nice I havnt run into any problems with any amount of tracks yet on me p4 2.6, 512
unless youre doing multitrack wave recording/playback, your hard drive RPM speed wont really matter
but if you are youre going to want at least 7200 yea theres some utiliity that can mix all of the fragments of the audio files in your project together sequentially so that theyre available for use at each step, rather than being separately defragmented
I forget what its called though, might help if you cant get 7200
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-20 16:52 [#00958920]
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I use SX 1.05 on a 2.4 gHz, 512 megs ram, mostly use Synth1 which is very light on the CPU, and the builtin sounds in my Roland RS 5. I haven't tried to really push it with straight audio tracks.
I like it a lot but it's hell in a bucket to control software sliders and knobs (like in a VST) from a knob-box like the Doepfer. Much prefer the arrangement in FL where you select a control, twiddle the knob and bob's your uncle.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-11-20 16:55 [#00958927]
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synth1 is the bees knees! I think ive run up to 12 of them at once without problems
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-20 16:56 [#00958928]
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When I first read that I thought it said "I've got a whole new one.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-20 17:00 [#00958933]
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Yeah, it's my favorite synth. I love the simple design - it's amazing how many sounds you can get with such simple routing.
Have you tried that new VitaminD bank of 128 patches? Some very nice pads, and it's tuned for version 1.06.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-11-20 17:03 [#00958937]
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I am going to have to get that I saw your post on KVR about the whole synth2 thing with the hex editor
pretty sweet! I found that a lot of my old 1.05 patches didnt sound the same in 1.06
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-20 17:07 [#00958943]
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Yeah some guy suggested to try to modify a registry key so you could use different color schemes in the two versions. Gonna try that tonight.
Mostly I found those great TechnoEssentials patches didn't sound the same in 1.06 - all the shrieking warbling majesty was gone... dammit I wish the programmer would start charging some money for this thing and do it fulltime.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-11-20 17:36 [#00958965]
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or at least open up the source
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-11-21 12:23 [#00960182]
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I'm getting the RAM maxed out to 1GB, but not right away. I'll have 512+128 at first, then I'll add another 512MB when I can afford it.
I've got a PC-Card with 2 USB2.0 ports coming next week, so I'll probably go with an external drive later.
The amount of VSTi's isn't really a critical matter as I've got a few hardware synths and I'm not about to sell any of them (horrible thought!).
I borrowed a book on SX today from the library. The mastering section in the book is pretty nice. It's by Thad Brown and has the stunning title, 'Cubase SX for Macintosh and Windows'. Apparently I'll be up and running in no time.
Thanks for all the info.
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