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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-17 14:42 [#00953879]
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i saw this on another board, but i felt i should post this here, so the users here can sign the petition against this evilness..
"(Casper, Wyoming) Anti-gay preacher Fred Phelps has announced intentions to erect a monument to Matthew Shepard the gay college student brutally murdered five years ago near Laramie.
But, the monument will be no memorial. Phelps says the monument would be 5 to 6 feet tall and made of marble or granite. It would bear a bronze plaque bearing the image of Shepard and have an inscription reading "MATTHEW SHEPARD, Entered Hell October 12, 1998, in Defiance of God's Warning: 'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind; it is abomination.' Leviticus 18:22."
The monument would be erected in downtown Casper, Shepard's home town. Phelps has sent details of the monument to the city of Casper city council and there may be nothing the city can do to prevent it. Phelps said he intends to put up the monument in City Park, already the location of a controversial statue of the Ten Commandments."
sign a petition against this
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-17 14:59 [#00953899]
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aww come on.. i know many of you are maybe homophobs, but this was a human life ruthlessly murdered.. and they are planning a monument to fuckin' celebrate it.. on public soil even..
that's just plain sick..
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-17 15:04 [#00953909]
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fuck, someone should kill that guy. still i'm not going to petition against it.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-17 15:05 [#00953914]
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oh wait, it's on public property? fuck this guy, where do I sign?
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-17 15:08 [#00953918]
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follow the link on the end of the first post
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SCHIZOPHRENIC
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2003-11-17 15:09 [#00953921]
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Already signed.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-17 15:11 [#00953924]
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i'm #72933
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SCHIZOPHRENIC
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2003-11-17 15:19 [#00953939]
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Thats really fucked up!
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-17 15:42 [#00953988]
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it's beyond fucked up. i can't believe how much christianity rules over this country..
another thing.. why don't they make a shrine saying that many casualties of the world trade center attacks, assassinated presidents, etc. etc. etc.. "entered hell" for wearing clothing with more than one type of fabric. i believe it states that's also a sin in Leviticus..
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ifkardo
from 785.8 mb of radio babylon (Equatorial Guinea) on 2003-11-17 18:43 [#00954349]
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#73320.
sign this!!!
picture this "monument" in your hometown, for all your family to see, aount, unlces, grandparents, siblings,et al...
SIGN IT!!!
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-11-17 18:56 [#00954377]
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that's really hard to believe.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 01:20 [#00954888]
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bump
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-18 01:27 [#00954894]
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the bible also says "judge wither not any man shall enter heaven or hell, for it is God's right alone to judge"
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-11-18 01:27 [#00954895]
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if it's too late and the monument is erected, here's the best case:
Fred Phelps inspects the front of the monument. while his nose is in the marble, we sneak up on the other side, lift the monument, and topple it on top of Phelps.
who's with me?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-18 01:28 [#00954897]
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*signs petition*
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-18 14:05 [#00955928]
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ignorant hypocrites need forgiveness, too!
who among us has no ignorance and no hypocricy?
anger and judgement will mute the most noble purpose.
i say we just sneak in and change the plaque when fred's napping...
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-11-18 14:37 [#00955966]
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So many fucking bigots out there *sigh*.
*signs*
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 14:53 [#00955982]
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i'm not saying they don't need forgiveness, but they need to "forgive" or leave alone those that they are trying to defile with a "monument" if they expect to be forgiven as well.
i say the only plausible thing is to somehow prevent it from being made, or sneak in there and destroy it, if it is made..
but if does end up being constructed, that would be a true loss for anyone with any sense of compassion or empathy towards the memory of this murdered human being.
i think tibbar had a good quote there.. so often these extreme religious people base their entire belief about certain kinds of people from one verse, while completely ignoring other, seemingly more important verses/ideas.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-18 15:06 [#00955993]
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*empty*
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 15:16 [#00956006]
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now what the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-18 15:18 [#00956009]
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Dunno. Seemed like the right thing to say. The truth is: Don't smoke. It'll kill you!
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 15:31 [#00956036]
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well at least it is a slow, consentual death.. not being tied to a fence, beaten, and then left for dead in freezing temperatures.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-18 15:32 [#00956041]
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Well.. you should try everything once.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 15:45 [#00956051]
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well, actually, i was referring to what happened to matthew shepard, but if you want to be mr. humorous during this matter then i guess that is fine, i can't stop you..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-18 15:50 [#00956057]
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I'm not really, but you didn't say that happened to him. I thought it was just some abstract example.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-11-18 15:54 [#00956068]
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okay then, nevermind.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-11-18 16:30 [#00956117]
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cue for, i didn't say that you said they don't need forgiveness. i just think in highly charged emotional cases like this it's important to remember that attacking mr. phelps is no different from mr. phelps attacking matthew shepard. mr. phelps does not forgive because he does not understand the value and meaning of forgiveness. he believes he is making the world a better place. yet he gives us the opportunity to make our forgiveness manifest; forgiveness has no meaning unless it is made manifest. forgiveness is one of the means by which the world is healed.
people like mr. phelps are not going away until all people express unconditional regard (love, acceptance, forgiveness) for all people. i realize that some will suggest this is impossible, and i say that it absolutely is possible.
we should be active and vocal in expressing a message counter to the venom put forth by mr. phelps, but associating mr. phelps' distorted vision with "christianity" (despite his own claims to be a christian), and advocating his murder cannot be productive responses.
cue 4, my comments in general were not directed at any particular individual, even though cue for initiated the thread. i comment when i'm interested in doing so and regret any implied criticism of your motives.
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