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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-11-16 15:54 [#00952491]
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im 29, am i to old to start making music ?
i have these ideas that my frineds dont, they seem scared, i just wanna make tunes, burn copies, givem away, just have a little xtra fun on the side
can someone gvbve me a simple set up ? i dont know if ists posssibvle but id rather not use the internet to get programs, is there shite at the pawn shops?
i need to talk to david more, but the cunt only has a phone though his chic
love me or hate me
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-16 15:55 [#00952493]
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get Reason. its expensive , but its best way to start - easy , friendly constructed , with full of options, i dont reccomend Fruity Loops at start - it might be annoying , you can get just wrong idea about software.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-16 15:56 [#00952494]
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version 1.0 is easily available , then you can upgrade it to 2.5 , which is veeery powerfull.nd it is more aesy to get samples
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-16 15:58 [#00952496]
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You're never too old. Get something like acid/ableton live and some sample cds first if you've never had any experience... they'll give you an insight into putting stuff together that sounds good. Once you've done that I'd get something like floops or reason to progress.
If you're determined not to go the s/w route, you should be able to pick up a second hand groovebox in a pawnshop. If you can afford it, the new Korg Electribe (SX) looks mighty tasty...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-11-16 16:01 [#00952499]
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If you put it like that I'd say the exact opposite is true. A beginner shouldn't immediately invest so much money in something. What if he doesn't like it as much as he thought he would? He'd have thrown away all that money for Reason.
Fruity Loops is a good way to start indeed. It teaches you a lot about basic synthesis principles. The interface however, is perhaps a bit too easy compared to other music software, like Reason, Cubase, Logc or various trackers. Progressing to such programs might be a big leap then.
Good luck!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-11-16 16:02 [#00952501]
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kool i appreciate the applause, i think i need to talk to this dude a little bit, im totaly green about wherere to start, and i think that might give me an advantage (or maybve im just talking out of my arse)
im inspired bymarlowe
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-16 16:08 [#00952503]
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what im trying to say is that fruity has crapped interface - it can be very annoying in first contact, . maybe youre right , maybe right thing to do is to read on web about these programs.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-16 16:11 [#00952506]
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you cant disagree that interface is important at rst contact , amnd reason is in hole ages befor Fl whe it comes to that
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-11-17 01:40 [#00952928]
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29 is not too late,.. manifestevil (jason) is 28 and he's going strong,.. I can't see why you cannot do the same thing :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-17 01:42 [#00952930]
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do it! no such thing as 'too late' unless. 'too late' is just an excuse.
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nacmat
on 2003-11-17 02:43 [#00952970]
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you are too old to do anything
(I am 28 so I am still young)
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-11-17 02:44 [#00952971]
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Just stick to your fleetwood mac records, grandad. You have to have one of those new fangled sequencer thingies to do dance music. Keep playing your mouth organ and leave it to the young men.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-17 03:19 [#00952986]
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I agree, there are plenty of people who seem really into making music and either peter out or even formally "retire" from music making 6 months down the line...
If you're the sort of person who changes their opinion/interests all the time (there's a little dilettante in all of us ;) I'd advice against buying stuff... this is why software is so good. You can pirate some s/w, use it and if you like it, buy it or go on to buy some hardware.
On the other hand, there's the old argument that the very act of buying it with hard earned cash, rather than "stealing" it will make you more determined as you have already invested a lot in it.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-17 03:26 [#00952989]
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I found making music so frustrating... I had ideas, just couldn't get them down... I guess that was my lack of knowledge of the process, and the software... but still, the frustration just led me to not want to learn the software!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-17 03:29 [#00952993]
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Aren't you glad you didn't buy a £2000 groovebox? ;)
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EnsconcE
from Grunn (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-17 16:42 [#00954114]
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too old? you are too old when you are dead
i am also planning to make music, i am 20 years old but can you tell me that i can do it better just because i'm younger?
i am going to use rebirth for the drums(cause it works very easy) and probably cooledit to combine the samples. fruityloops works easy to create some melodies. i am also planning to use ableton for some creation, don't know what because i don't know how it works.
if i where you i would download some trial software to check if you can make what you are planning to make, then buy.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-11-17 16:50 [#00954127]
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give it a shot grandad.. *said one senile old coot to the other :B
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-21 17:47 [#00960603]
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NO !
i mean yes.... yes you can make music. But do not start with reason. That is rediculous. Fucking A!!!
Grab demos for software try them out. Edit .wavs and play around and have fun
soundforge 6.0 Cool Edit AcidPro fruity
that is a good way to start IMO
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-11-21 17:49 [#00960606]
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/me loves thad.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-11-21 17:49 [#00960609]
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/me asks thad to marry him.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-21 17:51 [#00960610]
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good idea, virginp.
start making sounds. forget about making "songs" or "tracks" for now.
just make sounds you like. play around with the stuff.
then gradually start to look into structure.
you mostly see people skipping the sound-creation-step and using generic sounds in tracks that are basically pop-songs in structure - which is okay, but pretty boring.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-21 17:55 [#00960616]
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I recommend hardware, software makes me think i'm playing games not making music, btw you're not to old.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-21 17:55 [#00960617]
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Plus it gives you an idea how those programs work. Once you get the basic idea you then grab a program you have never used and experiment. And so on and so forth.
The basic idea being not only sound modification but the necessary understanding of how said program operates!!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FOR K_MATY ONLY!!!1
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-21 17:57 [#00960620]
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you're right, mister.
people want everything as fast as possible, as easy as possible.
which results in generic crap.
oh and we do not want that. oh NO !
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-11-21 17:57 [#00960621]
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yeah
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