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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-14 18:41 [#00950628]
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Why are most short albums so good? Not saying that anything +50min is bad, but under that is virtually a guarantee of quality.
EXAMPLES - RDJ album - Neko Case - Furnace Room Lullaby - Miles Davis - In A Silent Way - The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell - Chris Clark - Clarence Park - The Strokes - Is This It? - PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea - Massive Attack - Blue Lines - Bjork - Homogenic - My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Is it just the contained statement, with no pseudo-epic crap attached? Do all these bands just have a short attention span like myself? Discuss.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2003-11-14 18:43 [#00950631]
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How long is Homogenic?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-14 18:44 [#00950634]
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About 40min i think.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-11-14 18:46 [#00950637]
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In the good old days........an album would be 45 minutes max so the vinyl could reproduce the music really well. It was also a good excuse to say to the drummer, 'we can't fit your track on' or the bassists girlfriend etc.
now you can spread your ideas as thin as you want and let allsorts of crap be on there..
one of my favourtite albums is computer world - kraftwerk, it's amazing! 26 minutes long
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2003-11-14 18:48 [#00950642]
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hm.. Strange.. It feels longer than that.
I think it's just coincidence. I don't think the length of an album has anything to do with the quality.
(nice coincidence, tho)
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-14 18:49 [#00950647]
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it definitely doesnt. thats just a small selection of what some, not all people, would consider good. i have long albums on my favorites lists, and they are right up there if not more likable to me than short ones.
i could see it in some cases. more short and to the point is good. but not always
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-14 18:50 [#00950649]
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A lot of the short albums were originally vinyl only, i thought that might have something to do with it. I think it might be quite a good idea for artists to give themselves some sort of time limit occasionally, makes you think more about what you're putting on (most hip-hop albums could benefit from this). Still, SAWII wouldn't exist... long vs short albums?
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nacmat
on 2003-11-14 18:52 [#00950656]
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well.... saw II is like 150 mins and is a masterpiece
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-14 18:55 [#00950665]
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Agreed... trying to fit SAWII into less than 150min would be a musical massacre. I don't think this is a hard and fast rule, just a funny coincidence.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-11-14 18:55 [#00950666]
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It's great but how often do you listen to it in it's entirety?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-14 18:59 [#00950676]
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the 1st kylie album was 28 minutes
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-14 19:02 [#00950682]
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I like good albums.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-14 19:03 [#00950683]
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then i'm guessing:
THEORY: DISPROVED
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nacmat
on 2003-11-14 19:03 [#00950685]
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like once a week
I only listen to albums all the way through I never do playlists
I get an album and play it while I draw.... till it ends... and then another
I need the ambience once a week
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-11-14 23:35 [#00950826]
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Jivver - I thought it [Computer World] was 37 or so.
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-11-14 23:36 [#00950827]
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*runs to album stack*
Yep, 37 1/2 minutes.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2003-11-14 23:53 [#00950834]
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I don't think i've ever heard a punk cd longer than 45 minutes... if so, it's not real punk.
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-11-14 23:57 [#00950836]
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What about Wire's second album?
Or is it too much more post - punk?
I think it was around 50 minutes.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2003-11-15 00:00 [#00950837]
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listen to Bad Religion or Minor Threat...
Minor Threat's entire discography is less than 50 min... and Bad Religion has something like 16 albums... none over 50 minutes.
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Jaysuz Jones
from Wasaga Beach (Canada) on 2003-11-15 00:05 [#00950839]
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What about the following:
DJ Shadow - Endtrouducing... ANY Underworld (v.2) full - length AFX - ...icbyd ANY pre - 'pure algorithms' AE The Cure's mid 80's albums early Wu - Tang ANY post - 'pure algorithms' AE The Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime post - Twoism BOC full - lengths oh fuckit, ANY AE LP !?!?!
Whoops, forgot EP7...
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2003-11-15 00:29 [#00950844]
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and to deepspace9mm...
El-P, Def Jux, Aesop Rock, Mr Lif, Atmosphere, Anticon, Sole, Eyedea, Dose One, RJD2, Shadow, Company Flow, Quannum, Soulsides, Blackalicious, Lyrics Born, Latyrx...
you have good hip hop taste.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-11-15 01:17 [#00950862]
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the avalanches - el producto
20 minutes of pure goodness
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-11-15 01:26 [#00950868]
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you got any recommendations for a el producto fan?
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-11-23 13:41 [#00962383]
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i feel cheated by short albums. today for example i put on the new strokes album by the time i've made a cup of tea and sat down the album is virtually over. really does it take 2 years to make 33 mins of music?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-23 13:47 [#00962389]
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quality is not the same as quantity.
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eric_hard_jams
on 2003-11-23 13:52 [#00962394]
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it's a shame it sounds like tha last album too :s
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