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nacmat
on 2003-11-11 11:36 [#00945750]
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Now, lets discuss AFX - Smojphace EP [MEN002CD]. Details can be found here
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nacmat
on 2003-11-11 11:40 [#00945751]
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ok if this so bad and so little innovative... tell me why tell me who makes really innovative noise music so that I can listen to it.
and tell me, if this remix better or worse than the original?
my fav here is ktpa1... it really makes me have 7 minutes of relaxing trippy sounds
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-11 11:42 [#00945752]
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As for the first track i must say that i do like it. I think Richard did a good job here. Nothing over the top about it but i would consider it above average.
I like how near the end it starts turning into noise leading into the next two tracks KTPA1 KTPA2.
As for the noise tracks i think they are average. Considering i like merzbow. So either you like these tracks or you dont. That is what will make or break this EP.
Overall i'd give it a 3.7/5.0
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-11-11 11:43 [#00945754]
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I HATE IT what exactly is that moderation alert message, are we retarded ?
ho i see >: )
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goodbyegonzaguo
from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-11 11:49 [#00945764]
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Has anyone tried to run it through a spectrograph software to see if there are scans of pictures (like track 2 off windowlicker). I guess lots of noise would just look like a haze right?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-11 11:52 [#00945769]
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I love Run the Place Red, it's 'ardcore. But, no, I don't like noise music at all, except for a few interspersed bursts here and there. Some cool noises, but that's it... which makes sense.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-11 11:53 [#00945772]
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the noise on smoj is just horizontal lines (the beeping balloon noises) and .. well noise
like when your tv is malfunctioning
about smojphace : dont like it. the remix is way over the top, drukqs and mangle11 are cool but i just dont dig that 2902395 bpm drummachine kebab shit
the best thing about smojphace is the name.. ever tried yelling it in the street?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-11 11:55 [#00945774]
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''the best thing about smojphace is the name.. ever tried yelling it in the street?''
Yeah, I've been doing it for years. Richard stole my schtick.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-11-11 11:57 [#00945779]
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hehe smudge face ! i like it though its not in my faves i play it once in a while. the KTPA tracks dont bother me.
i like run the.... when the voices go funny.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-11 11:58 [#00945785]
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we actually call a teacher in school smojphace because his face looks like
well
a smoj :P
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-29 22:18 [#01376572]
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it's taken me a year, but i've finally heard this ep.
i really like it. especially the second and third tracks. i like noise music in general, and while i don't think this is particularly mindblowing noise, i don't think it sucks either.
as far as noise music goes, these are pretty listenable. not very harsh, sort of balloon-squeaky as jaroen describes. easy-listening noise...
ktpa1 and ktpa2 aren't meant to be heavy or overbearing, they're in their own little world. so while i can see purists not digging this sound, i wouldn't write it off the way many have. subjectively speaking, i find these tracks asthetically pleasing, though not necessarily overly challenging or emotional.
overall, this ep is much more accessible than i had thought it would be. i think it's a quality ep by afx and i will listen to it more than a few times.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-29 22:23 [#01376573]
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good noise from various segments of the genre (which is an oh-so sprawling one):
Black Dice Kevin Drumm Wolf Eyes Sightings Mindflayer Whitehouse Nurse With Wound Prurient Excepter Hecker Julien Ottavi the Boredoms Les Rallizes Denudes Markus Schmickler Fennesz Pita Rehberg and Bauer Z'ev Voice Crack Keith Rowe Gunter Muller Oren Ambarchi
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-10-30 07:08 [#01376678]
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I see Fennesz on there. Would, then, you also count Tim Hecker as noise?
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big
from lsg on 2004-10-30 07:41 [#01376689]
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if tracks like this were on 26 remixes than that release would be okay, but i still wouldnt buy it
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OK
on 2004-10-30 09:27 [#01376713]
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hmm what's wrong with 26 remixes
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-30 15:00 [#01376891]
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honestly, i don't know where to draw the line between ambient and noise, i'm tempted to say they are the same thing... there is certainly plenty of Tim Hecker that could be comfortably be placed within the noise realm... but when i said Fennesz i was mostly referring to some of his collaborative work with the likes of Keith Rowe, and Werner Dafeldecker... and also some of his earlier solo stuff like Hotel Paral.el (or wherever the period goes in there...), and not so much later stuff which bears large similarities to Tim's work...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-30 15:06 [#01376893]
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Hotel Parel.el i would consider to be "noise music" or something, yeh. But it's a really blurry genre. Tim hecker is another borderline thingy. To be honest i don't give a furry fuck as long as it sounds good.
Oh yeah, anyone read the wire article on wolf eyes this month? I've never heard anything by them, but i'm reeeeeally intrigued. They sound great.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-30 15:52 [#01376917]
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they are great... try to check out Dread or Dead Hills, or even the new one i suppose...
i don't think that issue of the Wire is quite available here yet...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-30 16:11 [#01376930]
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They're on the cover this issue. It's quite funny, most of the cover artists for the wire are very clued-up about their "conceptual goalzzz" or whatever, but wolf eyes sound like a couple of work-with-anyone stoners who had a lot of fun for a lot of years and suddenly got signed to sub pop, verrry laid-back.
Interestink Fakt: someone from black dice punched one of the wolf eyes dudes' friends in the balls. They hated each other for a while until they made an album together.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-30 16:14 [#01376932]
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two albums in fact... this has lead to a fair amount of confusion... i still don't know which one i have...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-30 16:19 [#01376937]
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I think it's a pretty standard state to be confused about their output... apparently there are a whole shitload of self-pressed vinyl and cassette albums hanging around in hideously limited quantities. God help us if they ever get as popular as BoC. I think the interweb would implode.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-30 16:21 [#01376939]
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yeah, i actually know a lot of people who buy their cassettes and such... please just try to ignore the fact that the sky is falling inwards... it's probably better that way...
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onecaseman
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-10-30 22:50 [#01377063]
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It's one of the worst releases I've ever heard. Richard shat on a record and put it out, proving people would buy anything he's involved in. I cannot believe some people have convinced themselves they like this crap.
The name is tight though. Smojphace.
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nacmat
on 2004-10-31 03:29 [#01377131]
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I am totally wasted... I like it
but its true, it is the one I like the least out of his works
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notmyname
from France on 2004-10-31 04:02 [#01377138]
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fukin hardcore music & fukin wiked, love it!!
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 03:15 [#01754197]
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Run The Place Red=Great The rest=Pretty shit
If you haven't got the actual EP and just want the remix Run The Place Red remix, click here
It's the second one down. The whole of the EP for free and no viruses.
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nacmat
on 2005-10-19 04:01 [#01754210]
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KTPA1 is fucking fantastic I dont care what you guys say
listening now in a break of 26 mixes, near the end of my trip
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-20 14:01 [#01755559]
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Today I was listening to it...
This "Remix Of Run The Place Red" is fucking amazing!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-10-20 14:29 [#01755601]
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i don't care for the remix much. as far as the other two tracks are concerned, i'm squarely in the camp that believes that if you enjoy them, there's no reason why you wouldn't enjoy a recording of virtually any decontextualized non-specific sound or noise with a reasonable degree of tonal/volume contrast that had the afx brand name affixed to it.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-21 02:07 [#01756030]
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Agreed
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-10-21 02:22 [#01756039]
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i know a shop that had this cd (its hard to find in melbourne)
now its closed.. COINCIDENCE?
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