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offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:47 [#00944222]
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I heard this theory day ago. explanation ?
if you love deep , then you want to be always with the
person you love. but beeing always causes troubles - you
cant do things that you have done earlier coz some of them
might hurt now. so-the more time you spend with person - the
less thongs you can do, and finally , love became hate .

bullshit for me , but in every theory is a drop of truth,
where is it here ?


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:47 [#00944223]
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it is not real story or somethin - pure theory. i dont know
if person who told me this is in a partnership of some kind
- i heard only words.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 15:49 [#00944227]
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love is an extreme hate is the other

extremes are very close many times

both are strong feelings
the further you can be from love is indiference, not hate


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:49 [#00944228]
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ok im going for a cigarette - when i come back i expect
discussion here , bump your hearts you stones...:P


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:50 [#00944229]
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i htink of more like a fine line between the two, you may
not even realize the difference if you end up hating someone
when you thought you loved them before


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 15:50 [#00944231]
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I was just talking to a friend on the phone like 5 minutes
ago... he is having a serious crisis with her girlfriend and
he told me he hated her... I know thats not true... he loves
her, but someitmes loving hurts a lot


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:51 [#00944233]
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if by love being one extreme and hate being the other you
mean theyre opposites, theyre really not, indifference is
more like the opposite of both. but undoubtedly theres a
strong connectiong between the two


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:51 [#00944234]
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hate is extreme too , at least for me .
look at this : if you love deep - you can go very quick from
it to hate , and this kind of hate that is stronger than
simple " i dont like him/her"
love makes possibility to hate someone more strong that
anything else , right ?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:54 [#00944241]
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yeah love and hate are both extremes, but both on the same
side really, because theyre both forms of caring intensely
about what someone does/how they feel etc. if you love or
hate someone, you care how they feel, it just depends if you
want them to feel good or bad.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 15:55 [#00944243]
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hate is extreme too , at least for me
_______________________________

thats what I said


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:56 [#00944246]
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indeed

but can we draw a line betwen ?
there must be line somewhere....


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:59 [#00944260]
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nonono, love has nothing at all to do with hate.... there's
love and then there's letting go.
once you let go, the memories are gone for a long time.
until some how they come up again... evn tho it won't
matter.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:01 [#00944265]
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they can have similar characteristics, but they are not the
same thing at all, anyone whos ever actually loved another
person and hated someone will know that, it is pretty
obvious.

I mean.. shit............


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:02 [#00944273]
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" i love you "
" i hate you "

sound similar , these are most common words , very simple to
speak...
why you can tell it so easily one after another ? perfect
combination ?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:04 [#00944276]
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tragedy: love and hate are a lot of different things .....
like they can mean slightly to a lot of different things,
for different people ofcourse....

like you almost describe love there....... but thats not
how ive felt it in my life.... ive had 4 serious girlfriends
in my almost 21 years on this planet and all of them lasted
about 1 year.... or more... so ofcourse there was love there
in some cases, strong too ... but really... in time, love is
another feeling to forget. or embrace, or whatever the fuck
you want to do with it.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:04 [#00944278]
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i think ill avoid posting in this thread anymore, just to
deprive all of you from the drama that would ensue...


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:05 [#00944282]
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i dunno, just be happy there'e love, love is amazing, i LOVE
being in LOVE!!
I think everyone goes through a phaze whre they becom jaded,
and don't believe love exists... but when they come to
realizations, and gain self worth and values... that's when
everything becomes good.
my life is so fucking good right now.as compared to months
ago, and yeaaarrsss ago, because i've grown up, and know
life is really not that bad. um.... yeahhh


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-11-10 16:05 [#00944285]
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Stop thinking so much... it's bad for you.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:07 [#00944289]
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thats good for you , but isnt it true that love ( and only
love) can produce strongest hate ?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 16:08 [#00944292]
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options:

1 my english is very bad

2 none of you has a decent reading comprehension


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:11 [#00944302]
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3. this is discussion and everyone of us has personal way of
understanding. you r words are part of discussion but dont
try to close it by what you said. My english is probably
worse than anything that you read on this board but you
explanation is not satysfying for me , i would like to find
strong line between "love" and "hate" , and i dont think
that it will go easily......


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:12 [#00944303]
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tragedy: your name is funny cause when you fall out of love,
its a tragedy and it feels that way for a long fucking time.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:14 [#00944312]
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i have personal question for ya :
what can you say about your partnerships ?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 16:14 [#00944313]
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there are no lines in feelings

love is one extreme, hate is another



 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:15 [#00944318]
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reflx> really? i didn't know that, i've never been in that
situation....

*sarcasm*


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944320]
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it seems that you have strictly different point of view than
me.
just add "IMO"


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944322]
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hyakusen: well like i said ive had a couple pretty long
relationships, that were all pretty damn serious to the both
of us. they usually ended with the girl breaking up with me,
because overall im the kind of guy that wants to "stay" in
one spot with a girl, to be in love, to that one person.
Just the way iam really. there was once or twice i broke up
with them cause I just didnt see it going anywhere really,
before things got serious ya know. what could i say about
them? ive learned one hell of a lot about myself and
humanity through dealing in love and sorrow with women.
theyve made me the happiest ive been and theyve made me the
saddest ive ever been.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944324]
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and i think that there is a line , it exist everywhere ,
even between me and you


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:18 [#00944327]
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tragedy: yeah well.... shit.... after being through it
enough times you get a protective layering on you....... it
gets better everytime you break up... fuck.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:18 [#00944328]
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i dunno, i've nver fallen out of love, while in a
relationship. i'm not in love with any one in the moment,
but i have a feeling i will be soon. bing in love feels so
safe.okok...

love= safeness, and being scared
TRUE love= happiness
hatered= fear


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:19 [#00944330]
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thanks

"theyve made me the happiest ive been and theyve made me the

saddest ive ever been. "

so if these feelings are so close to eachother there must be
pure connection between them



 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:20 [#00944333]
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love = scared = fear = hatered

right ?


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:21 [#00944335]
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"there are no lines in feelings "

Exactly.All feelings are the combination of different
emotions.One doesn't simply love nor hate someone.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:21 [#00944337]
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i've never been in true love, but i know i will eventually.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-10 16:22 [#00944340]
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hate = when you want someone to be dead - i dont want that,
so i guess i dont hate anyone...yet...


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:23 [#00944344]
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all combinations are going into one point, isnt that true ?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:23 [#00944345]
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hyakusen: well yeah there is a connection, but not the one I
think your looking for, like the connection is the other
person in the relationship, not love.... cause they cause it
when they do good or bad on your part or whatnot.

but in a way what your looking for here is right too. in a
way.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:24 [#00944346]
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lov is happiness... except happiness comes and goes,... love
doesn't really. so ok i'm confused now too... haha, but...
don't dwell on it, just b happy : D i'm so happy lately.
it's wondrful.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:24 [#00944347]
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tragedy: ive been in true love more than once.... and have
had it blow up in my face, all I could say to someone in
your situation is .... have fun while you can, and sieze the
day kind of thing, cause shit dont last forever, ESPECIALLY
when your young. I could not stress that enough....

I mean.... fuck you either get married or you dont.


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:29 [#00944358]
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I really can't coment on such a matter,as I have never been
in love,but I can put it into context.

This really makes my head hurt on how to explain it.
And the language barriers doesn't help.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:34 [#00944365]
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i've been in love, i've been with people for a loooonggg
time, and had my heart broken more than once, realllly
badly, trust me i know. but once you realize bing alone
isn't that bad, and gain self worth and respct, and value,
it's ok to b alone. if you aren't happy being alon, or by
yourself sometimes, .... how can anyon else be happy being
with you?
ralization is a bitch, but it's life.
and life is good, once you


 

offline telica from london/york on 2003-11-10 16:34 [#00944367]
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emotion is relative. we wouldn't appreciate happiness if we
never had to deal with sadness. it would be meaningless.

that's what i tell myself when i feel crappy anyway :)


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:36 [#00944373]
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It is true..."For what is life without dark" and all the
rest of the sayings.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:37 [#00944375]
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tragedy: well well,, smart girl. youve got knowledge that so
many dont have on love.... first had experience.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-11-10 16:41 [#00944382]
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offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:42 [#00944383]
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i put neet on my knees today, caus i bought a skirt at a
thrift store, and a raiosor just didn't cut it, and now my
knes are itchy and irritated...
on a better note, this skirt rocks, it's from express brand
new and i got it for 2 bucks!


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-11-10 16:43 [#00944387]
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take it off for me, will yoU ?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:46 [#00944390]
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tradedy: vallue village? buy more look poor? hhahaahaa no
thats cool.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-10 23:10 [#00944840]
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when you love someone it causes feelings to be raw and it's
very easy to become paranoid or be hurt by things you
normally wouldn't give a second thought.
and when you get hurt you hate

a bad explanation but it works


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-11-10 23:29 [#00944862]
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After the many many many years of loving and hating I
narrowed it down to this:


The chase is always better then the catch.


Extreme stimualtion floats my boat. Insane hate or insane
love rocks. When your dead you feel nothing so might as well
feel it all now while you can ! lol



 


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