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JD: Unknown Pleasures or Closer?
 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:26 [#00932065]
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which do you prefer?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:30 [#00932069]
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depends on mood, both are classics that i don't think could
be any more perfect for what they are.

lately i've preferred their earlier, more punk material, so
UP and Still it is. but when i want something even darker,
more depressing, and complex, i go to Closer. they were
going in such a musically great direction but i guess you
can't go far before it ends like it did.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:34 [#00932079]
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Unknown Pleasures for me. Rocks harder AND I find it more
depressing, for some reason. I like the guitar work more,
has bite and sting. Closer is probably the ''better'' album,
but UP is more my style.

I did like the direction they were going, but some of the
songs don't click with me, despite the better production.


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:34 [#00932080]
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I like the Warsaw stuff too, for sheer agression, 'At a
Later Date' and 'Novelty' are probably my favorite out of
the '77 period.

You're right though, both albums are classics, and although
i always tend to go for closer, they seem to be like novels
to me; perfect novels that i listen to from start to finsh
every time.


 

offline rez from here on 2003-11-03 12:35 [#00932085]
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i think unknown pleasures wins by a hair's breadth. Both are
outstanding albums.


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:36 [#00932088]
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I was in a night-club recently and they played isolation, i
couldn't belive it..

apparenly theres an alternate take somewhere, whcih would be
good to hear


 

offline rez from here on 2003-11-03 12:38 [#00932093]
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maybe i prefer substance more: digital, transmission, dead
souls, atmosphere, no love lost, ...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:39 [#00932095]
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Well, I know there's an alternate version on Still, it's not
as good as the original though. Better bass and percussion,
don't like his voice as much though.

I would and do shake my ass to that track all the time
though!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:39 [#00932096]
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i like to throw joy division songs into my radio dj sets,
it's so different yet they always fit so well (IMO). even if
you're not familiar with the band you just can't help but be
moved by their music, it was really special. maybe i can
download the demos from Ophecks on slsk over winter break, i
haven't heard them yet.


 

offline rez from here on 2003-11-03 12:41 [#00932099]
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i love ian's dancing!


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:45 [#00932105]
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thats just a live version on Still of their last gig
(coincidently, there SHOULD have been a "Twenty Four Hours"
live on it, but factory cut the song out, to save space i
think..i have the mp3 though) - it'll probably get a
re-issue soon with it on it


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:48 [#00932111]
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titsworth: what demo's are you tlaking about?, there'so
many..


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:49 [#00932112]
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all of them, but especially warsaw demos


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:50 [#00932114]
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Oh OK, I getcha, like another take from that session. I'd
love to hear that.

Rez- Ian Curtis > Michael Jackson


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:50 [#00932115]
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

closer.

thats the one im more familiar with.

but there are some REALLY standout tracks on unknown
pleasures.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-03 12:51 [#00932117]
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yea i would've loved to have heard michael jackson sing with
joy division! great idea! :}


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-03 12:54 [#00932121]
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I did a cover of Interzone here

its funny, (everything by me, even the strange noises :D)



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:54 [#00932124]
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The only demos I have are Warsaw and Remains (lots of Warsaw
duplicates on there and a few other ones).

Remains
1. Bauhaus - Double Dare (4:54)
2. Joy Division - At A Later Date (3:12)
3. Joy Division - The Kill (3:08)
4. Joy Division - You're No Good For Me (2:01)
5. Joy Division - At A Later Date (Live) (3:01)
6. Joy Division - Leaders Of Men (2:22)
7. Joy Division - Walked In Line (2:42)
8. Joy Division - Failures (2:30)
9. Joy Division - Novelty (3:50)
10. Joy Division - No Love Lost (4:53)
11. Joy Division - Transmission (4:16)
12. Joy Division - Ice Age (2:27)
13. Joy Division - Warsaw (2:14)
14. Joy Division - Shadowplay (3:44)
15. Joy Division - Atrocity Exhibition (4:15)
16. Joy Division - Something Must Break (2:49)
17. Joy Division - Transmission (3:29)
18. Joy Division - She's Lost Control (3:39)
19. Joy Division - Transmission (3:12)
20. Joy Division - Passover (Live) (2:10)
21. Joy Division - New Dawn Fades (Live) (4:30)
22. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart (3:15)
23. Joy Division - Inside The Line (2:43)
24. Joy Division - Gutz (1:58)

The Kill is so badass.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-03 12:55 [#00932128]
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Uhhh... *sings - one of these things is not like the other,
one of these things just doesn't belong



 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2003-11-03 12:58 [#00932134]
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'wilderness' was always my favorite on U.P.
sparse and strong, simulaneously.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-04-28 00:53 [#01163821]
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just bought unknown pleasures...

now I understand what pulp sounded like in 83-92


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2004-05-07 20:46 [#01177996]
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unknown pleasures - production is at least 10 years ahead of
its time


 


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