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offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-31 08:46 [#00927194]
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whos into them?

i think their later period work is EXCELLENT, in terms of
song composition AND sound sculpture.

the best drones i ever heard in my life are on "soundtracks
for the blind".

and gira's writing is excellent!

his book of short stories "the consumer" is an amazing,
shocking read.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-31 08:48 [#00927199]
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i just think they're brilliant!

they definitely dont get the props they deserve.

from uplifting, to spiritual, to metaphysical, to
depressing, to morbid, to innocent, to abbrassive and
furious... they have done it ALL.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-31 08:50 [#00927202]
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their sound was an OBVIOUS influence on sonic youth (see
"celebrity lifestyle"), and the new york rock scene in
general, michael gira being the biggest and certainly most
controversial voice from NYC since lou reed.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-31 08:54 [#00927210]
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highlights:

* soundtracks for the blind 2xcd
* the great annihilator cd
* die tur ist zu cdep (great germanic reinterpretations of
stuff from the later era)
* white light from the mouth of infinity cd
* love of life cd
* children of god/world of skin 2xcd (if you want the angry
bludgeoning stuff)
* the body lovers - 1 cd
* angels of light - any you can get yr hands on


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-31 08:56 [#00927216]
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i KNOW alot fo you havent heard em, but trust me... give
some of this stuff a chance!!!!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-31 10:45 [#00927428]
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the swans were ok (nothing amazing IMO) but you're on the
wrong message board, try some indie rock forum.. people here
don't have a clue or just don't want to talk about some old
shit they don't listen to anymore


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-10-31 16:50 [#00927813]
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indie rock board? thats not even the right crowd. its more
in place here than on indie rock.
honestly, i see no connection musically between swans and
sonic youth even though they had a slight connection in SY's
early years. swans are more similar to neubauten, throbbing
gristle, nurse with wound etc (in some ways) than they are
to the ny scene like sy, branca, chatham, dna and all that
stuff.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-10-31 16:54 [#00927825]
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anyways, soundtracks for the blind, great annihilator and
the burning world(i have forever burned) and public
castration is a good idea are all top notch stuff.

so what is die tur ist zu? i thought it was just a
compilation cd.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-10-31 16:55 [#00927829]
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Nice birds!

:P


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-31 18:14 [#00927893]
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yea you're right, people should be more receptive to the
swans here but i think since they really weren't amazing
like sonic youth or the pixies most people here don't know
them. speaking of sonic (who came out before the swans btw
tibbar), i was listening to confusion is sex last night and
it struck me how influenced they were by joy division.. the
basslines, the martin hannett style production, some of the
singing, definitely the energy of some of the earlier
punkish JD


 

offline AlfredPMcLovely from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-10-31 18:17 [#00927898]
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I don't think I've seen somebody post 5 times in a row
before. I'm calling Guiness.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2003-11-03 00:02 [#00931084]
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i'm with you, tibbar. the swans are one of my favorite
bands. my favorite album is the great annihilator, hands
down. that's a perfect album. filth is my favorite
early-swans record. have you heard gira's "drainland"?
that's a complete masterpiece.


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-23 18:22 [#00962787]
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drainland is pretty hard to find though, out of print right?
by the way, how do you guys like the angels of light? i
only have new mother but how i loved you is on the way in
the mail for me.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-11-24 04:46 [#00963216]
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one time a swan and a wasp were both after my jam sandwich,
so i opened it and the wasp landed on it. then i closed the
sandwich around the wasp, and fed it to the swan.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-24 04:46 [#00963218]
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boo


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-11-24 04:51 [#00963221]
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swans are mean birds


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2003-11-24 05:14 [#00963244]
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I saw them live once..but I was so drunk that I don't
remember anything. People tell me it was loud... I do
remember the support act, though, coz' that was Pan Sonic -
or Panasonic as they used to be called and they were fucking
brilliant!


 

offline blipseed from Virgin Islands (US) on 2003-11-24 05:19 [#00963250]
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Swans have very few similarities to Sonic Youth. There are a
couple of tracks towards the end of the Swans on Soundtracks
For The Blind and Swans Are Dead that are highly reminiscent
of mid to late 80's Sonic Youth, from a guitar sound point
of view, but that really where the similarities end.
I saw Gira perform a solo acoustic show a couple of weeks
ago. He played New Mind as the final encore! I was in
heaven!


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-24 05:19 [#00963252]
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i saw them on their last tour, they were so loud, i cried in
the car on the way home because i had such a bad headache.

even download didnt hurt my ears as bad as they did.

it was nuts.

they didnt even play any angry of harsh stuff, it was just
so fricken thunderous.
they did an AWESOME rendition of "the sound" though, i
remember that.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-24 05:21 [#00963258]
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i didnt say that they sounded like sonic youth, i said they
were an obvious influence, which they were. my friends uncle
is glenn branca, who worked with BOTH bands in the early
80's, and they most definitely were an influence on sonic
youth's NOISIER type stuff.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-11-24 05:21 [#00963259]
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i know this is not a thrread about swans the animals, but
once i was chased into a pond by one.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-24 05:22 [#00963260]
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listen to the older stuff like "confusion is sex", then
listen to "filth" or "cop" by swans. the similarity in
mentality and approach is obvious.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-11-24 15:05 [#00963851]
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confusion is sex was released before both of those
albums.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-11-24 15:11 [#00963860]
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seriously i'd pay to see that!!


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-24 15:16 [#00963868]
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come on! angels of light, jarboe, gira solo, body
lovers\haters? no views on those or what...


 


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