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The Unabomber's Manifesto (Ted Kaczynski)
 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-27 16:08 [#00921038]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/ar
t0182.html

THis is turning out to be a very interesting read. I'm only
on paragraph 41 so far. I found this on memestreams.net
which I also suggest, once again.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:24 [#00927455]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt
quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself,
what with going to school and neurotically spending my time
engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often
wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way
humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering
existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary
insights/predictions of human future and probably figures
the current system of technology/society will evolve into a
new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming
the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far
I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology
when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural
behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even
then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom.
They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their
system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the
most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always
pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex
making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate
that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals.
Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though
since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals
were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So
would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate
activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the
real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school,
taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were
deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so
surely we have a psychological "need" for that
"entertaining" behavior.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:24 [#00927456]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt
quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself,
what with going to school and neurotically spending my time
engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often
wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way
humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering
existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary
insights/predictions of human future and probably figures
the current system of technology/society will evolve into a
new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming
the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far
I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology
when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural
behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even
then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom.
They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their
system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the
most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always
pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex
making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate
that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals.
Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though
since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals
were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So
would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate
activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the
real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school,
taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were
deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so
surely we have a psychological "need" for that
"entertaining" behavior.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:25 [#00927458]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt
quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself,
what with going to school and neurotically spending my time
engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often
wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way
humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering
existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary
insights/predictions of human future and probably figures
the current system of technology/society will evolve into a
new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming
the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far
I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology
when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural
behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even
then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom.
They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their
system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the
most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always
pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex
making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate
that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals.
Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though
since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals
were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So
would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate
activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the
real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school,
taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were
deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so
surely we have a psychological "need" for that
"entertaining" behavior.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:27 [#00927465]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



whoa, cool


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-10-31 11:32 [#00927468]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



you really are messed up


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-31 13:04 [#00927582]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



46 & 2


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-04-07 04:40 [#01874042]
Points: 3756 Status: Regular | Followup to w M w: #00927465



yeah, cooooooooool


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-07 07:25 [#01874119]
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I read this a couple of years ago (could well have been
after reading this). I still agree with a lot of what Mr.
Kaczynski says.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-04-07 08:03 [#01874144]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular



unbelievable


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2006-04-07 09:44 [#01874205]
Points: 2440 Status: Regular



if gore vidal can dig him, I'm willing to give him some
kudos, although his arrogance took the best of him.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2006-04-07 09:45 [#01874206]
Points: 4882 Status: Lurker



mr kaczynski

let me repeat that

mr kaczynski


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-04-09 09:42 [#01875659]
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I honestly agree with a lot of the stuff he said.
I like the way he was thinking outside of any left/right
wing point of view. Has anyone read his "Ship of Fools"
story?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-04-09 09:48 [#01875661]
Points: 12878 Status: Addict



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