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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-27 16:08 [#00921038]
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http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/ar t0182.html
THis is turning out to be a very interesting read. I'm only on paragraph 41 so far. I found this on memestreams.net which I also suggest, once again.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:24 [#00927455]
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I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself, what with going to school and neurotically spending my time engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary insights/predictions of human future and probably figures the current system of technology/society will evolve into a new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom. They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals. Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school, taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so surely we have a psychological "need" for that "entertaining" behavior.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:24 [#00927456]
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I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself, what with going to school and neurotically spending my time engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary insights/predictions of human future and probably figures the current system of technology/society will evolve into a new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom. They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals. Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school, taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so surely we have a psychological "need" for that "entertaining" behavior.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:25 [#00927458]
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I'm about 3/4 through the unibomber's manifesto now. I felt quite uncomfortable growing up in the current system myself, what with going to school and neurotically spending my time engaged in various electronic devices. I quite often wondered if I would have been happier behaving the way humans evolved to behave in a "primitive" hunting/gathering existence. Kaczynski makes some fairly scary insights/predictions of human future and probably figures the current system of technology/society will evolve into a new "creature", each of us losing our freedom and becomming the equivalent of a cell relative to our whole body. So far I'm unconvinced there'd be any good in destroying technology when it is weak and returning to our primitive natural behavior because evoltion would continue to progress. Even then, each of our cells would not have complete freedom. They would have no choice but to participate in "us", their system. The concept of "surrogate activity" is probably the most interesting thing I've gotten from this. I always pictured people neurotically wrapped up in hobbies (aphex making music) are really just trying to satisfy and simulate that primitive need of setting and accomplishing goals. Their goals are entirely artificial and arbitrary now though since they don't exist in primitive times when such goals were natural and necessary to obtain food/shelter etc. So would you be happier partaking in the artifical surrogate activity of playing doom2, or actually hunting bison in the real 3 dimensional universe with no worries about school, taxes, corporations, telephones, computers etc. Things were deliberately programmed to scare/hunt you in videogames so surely we have a psychological "need" for that "entertaining" behavior.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 11:27 [#00927465]
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whoa, cool
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-10-31 11:32 [#00927468]
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you really are messed up
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-31 13:04 [#00927582]
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46 & 2
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-04-07 04:40 [#01874042]
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yeah, cooooooooool
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-07 07:25 [#01874119]
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I read this a couple of years ago (could well have been after reading this). I still agree with a lot of what Mr. Kaczynski says.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-04-07 08:03 [#01874144]
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unbelievable
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-04-07 09:44 [#01874205]
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if gore vidal can dig him, I'm willing to give him some kudos, although his arrogance took the best of him.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-04-07 09:45 [#01874206]
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mr kaczynski
let me repeat that
mr kaczynski
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-04-09 09:42 [#01875659]
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I honestly agree with a lot of the stuff he said. I like the way he was thinking outside of any left/right wing point of view. Has anyone read his "Ship of Fools" story?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-04-09 09:48 [#01875661]
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